IS A SUCKERS BET.....Ive worked for the largest bookmaker in the world...not that that means anything....other than im not a newbie....I have been gambling 54 years....not that that means anything......If most bookmakers allow you 1/2 juice nowadays if you bet at least $100- $200 game meaning -05 juice......How can you ever expect to buy 1/2 point for 10%more juice...Now if you could buy off of a 3 in CFB or NFL...Then that would offer value....but i believe its -130 or-140 to buy up or down off of a 3....there is no such thing as it "offers value" as an excuse because it will not pay off in the long run....Just like laying 11/10 on sporting events...you can't win...thats why bookmakers will give you 1/2 juice or -05.....you cant beat 11/10....10 % juice for a 1/2 point might not seem like its that much but Its enough "TO STOP A FREIGHT TRAIN".....you dont have to be a genius to realize this.....most sport bettors are in denial of this because they want the "Action".....but when the house is gone,,and your in hock from laying 11/10 you come to the realize your looking up a dead horses ass!! I know the largest bookmaker in calif......he tells me 98% of sports bettors can not even beat -05....The reason for this post is i keep reading posts that read Should i buy a 1/2 point on this game or that game and i laugh cause i know they r chasing their tail around and around.....do it for any considerable time and im sure you will come to the same conclusion..Im not here to offend any one..I like the Pregame Forum....Im not here to try and make it sound like im a winner and every one else is a loser, but im tired of people who are in denial of laying 11/10 and expecting to beat the proposition!