NCAAFB & NFL "TRUE STEAM"..."65% ATS" !!

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NCAAFB & NFL "TRUE STEAM"..."65% ATS" !!

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After a "4-1" Weekend in NCAAFB & NFL...the "TRUE STEAM" Blog is now "11-6" (65% ATS) since I began choosing those "Early Moves" that are supported by my own Lines/Ratings, which are also updated & created weekly...I do this for the exact same reason that the Wiseguys do...Because without making my own "price" for each match-up, it would be impossible to compare what the oddsmaker come up with...and the bookmakers eventually offer...For the purpose of determining, where there may be some "value"...

It's just like any other "Market" that we all deal with on a daily basis...You would never try and purchase a car or home, without having your own opinion on how much it truely is worth...And based on that opinion, you can determine if there is enough value to make it worth buying...We do this for everything we purchase or sell...from clothing, to food, ect...

So as sports bettors, it becomes a factor that must be decided on before you even begin looking at what the bookmakers are offering...

Because as soon as you take a look at what lines the books are using for each game...whether you realize it or not, you have become biased...The reason for this is simple...When you look at TEAM A -5 vs TEAM B...Subconsciously, you already told yourself that TEAM A is the "favorite" to win the game...But what if before you looked at what the books hung up, you came to your own conclusion that TEAM B should actually be -1...Then you can immediately spot the "value"...and move on to step 2, which would be to handicapp the game, to try and find out why there is a difference of opinion between your line and the bookmakers...

You may find that there is an injury, or there is a strong historical trend...But if you are lucky, you just may find that it's because of "Public Perception"...Or that it's the number that the books felt will give them the best chance at "split action"...Either way, with those latter conclusions...you just found yourself some "value", and a reason to possibly take a position and make a wager...

The reason that I brought this up...is because after being one of those guys who actually moved these "steam" plays...I can tell you with certainty, that almost EVERY "early move"...is based on that difference in opinion...And it's only later in the week, after having time to really break down the individual match-ups...that the "steam" plays are based on "information" or "handicapping"...And the gathering of info, and the handicapping done...is all for the purpose of determining why the line being offered, differs from the line the Outfits made for that same game...

Although this may sound difficult at first...it just takes experience, and a lot of attempts...to get more comfortable doing it...My advice is to begin with a sport like the NFL, which we have all probably followed the longest and possibly, closest...And have a better understanding of what "Home Field Edge" is worth, and factors such as these...So this week, before you look at the lines that the books put out for Week 9 in the NFL...try and come out with your own, and do some comparing/shopping...

With that, let's move on to this week's "TRUE STEAM"...where once again, I was able to confirm 5 "Early Moves"...that were supported by my own lines...

 

NCAAFB "TRUE STEAM" for SAT 11-7-09 :

1.) NORTH CAROLINA opened -7....Now -10

The Greek was the 1st off-shore book to hang a line on this match-up, and they opened the game, NC -7...That's where CRIS opened it also, about 10 min. later...And it was then that the Wiseguys gave them the first indication that it may be too low...And after laying -7, enough respect was given, to force an adjustment, up to -7.5...We are seeing the books willing to get on/off a "key number" with less resistance lately, and that's because the Outfits are getting the best of them...When this line got to 7.5, the Outfits backed off and on Monday morning we saw those shops who already had the following weekend's number up, also offer the game at 8...Then, the Wiseguys went to work, buying up all the -8, -8.5, & -9 that was out there...Within an hour, this line had gone all the way to NC -10...which finally backed them off...And that is where we are seeing this line today...

LINE PREDICTION : NC has been viewed on "prime-time" ESPN in back-to-back weeks...And although they just beat VTech, they are perceived as a team without much offense...This is why, now that the line is up to -10...the sportsbooks are expecting the betting public to take Duke...So unless another "buy-order" is sent out, which I highly doubt...we should see this line stay steady at 10...then drop some on game-day, when the public starts betting...and some of these Betting Syndicates decide to work a middle, after laying -7....VR

 

2.) ARIZONA opened -27....Now -33

Pinny got the jump on the other off-shore books, and were the first to offer a line on this match-up...And when they opened it up at ARZ -27, within "1 minute" the Wiseguys hit them hard enough to force an adjustment all the way up to -31...Any book that went ahead and opened the line after this at anything lower, was reprimanded immediately...so by the end of Sunday, we were seeing 31, almost all across the board...It stayed there until this morning, which tells me that this was a planned attack...Because when the spread is this high, more times than not...the sportsbooks will "circle" the game...Which means that they are only willing to take a "limited" amount of money on either side (most times 1/2 the normal limit)...By Tuesday, almost all books are offering a line on the weekend's games...locals included...And this morning, we saw the Betting Syndicates take advantage of that, and started buying up all the -31, -31.5, & -32's...that were available...This forced the books to move this line all the way to -33, where it sits now...

LINE PREDICTION : I believe that this line may get to 33.5 or even 34...But because the Outfits got such a good number early, I don't expect them to send out any more "buy-orders"...unless, it's to work a middle...And now that the line is this high, the public action should come in split...This is why I expect this line to stay around 33 throughout the week, then possibly take a dip on Saturday...With that said, I don't believe this will get back down below 31 again...VR

 

3.) COLORADO opened +4.5/+4....Now +2.5

This is one of those plays, which makes it difficult to know whether or not the Betting Syndicates are truely taking a "position"...or are simply looking to work a profitable middle...on and around the "key number" of 3...Because the first off-shore sportsbook to offer a line on this game, the Greek...hung up A&M -4...and took some money on the "fav"...The Greek moved the line to -4.5, and that is where CRIS opened their's...Once again, the books took some more money on A&M and by the end of the night...the line was -5, all across the board...That's where it stood on Monday, and where we saw most of the books here in Vegas also open it up...Until that is, the Outfits made what appeared to be a simple "buy-back"...which prompted the sportsbooks to drop the line back down, in 1/2 pt incriments...That all changed this morning...because the Wiseguys finally opted to show their true intentions, and began buying up all the +4, +3.5, & even +3's that were out there...Most books didn't want to play the cat & mouse game and went to 2.5 immediately, bypassing such a "key number"...While others, not wanting to entice such a profitable middle opportunity...went to +3 (-115 & -120) instead...Because as we touched upon on past blogs, the books are aware that the Betting Syndicates don't like to lay "vig" on "point-spread" sports...Finally, we are now seeing either 2.5...or 3, with the added vig...

LINE PREDICTION : It's no secret where the betting public will be putting their money on for this match-up...the "fav", TEX A&M...This is why I believe that the line for this game will eventually get to -3, everywhere...And those who went to 2.5, I think made a mistake by offering up such a profitable middle...The only way I can see this line moving now, is back up...as the public begins betting the game...or the Wiseguys decide to work that middle...Either way, if you like the fav...I would get down now, otherwise...wait this line out and you should get the best possible number on the dog, late...VR

 

4.) TULSA opened +3....Now -1.5

CRIS was the first to put a number up for this match-up, and when they hung up HOU -3...and didn't receive any money either way...within an hour, the rest of the off-shore books who offer lines early for the next week's games, felt safe enough to also put up 3 on that game...That was Sunday evening, and before the night was through...the Outfits bought some +3 on Tulsa and forced the adjustment down to 2.5...Then on Monday, when more books opened their lines for the upcoming games, the Wiseguys went ahead and took +2 & +1.5 on Tulsa...But with expectations of public money coming in on Houston, some books actually went back up to 2 by the end of the night...Then Tuesday came, and the Outfits decided to move full steam ahead (no pun intended)...and they really took it to the books hard...The "buy-orders" kept being sent out, and the Outfits were competing to see who can get the best number...And in the course of "11 minutes", they had forced the sports books to go from -2 on Houston...all the way to -1.5 on Tulsa...Ultimately letting the oddsmakers and bookmakers know, that they had the wrong team favored...

LINE PREDICTION : Although it's obvious that the Wiseguys see a lot of value on Tulsa...as I've pointed out countless times, they love to be able to get "points" on BOTH teams in any given match-up...This is why I expect this line to get back down to a PK eventually...And when the betting public gets involved, later in the week...and expecially on Saturday...we may very well see Houston go off as the favorite once again...VR

 

NFL "TRUE STEAM" for 11-8-09 :

1.) NY GIANTS opened -3 (-120)....Now -5

It's obvious to me, that when CRIS first opened this line at -3 & -120...they believed it was probably too low...But they wanted to test the waters, by adding the "vig" to deter the Wiseguys...especially since it was on a "key number"...That worked for a little while, because even though they took some NYG money from the Outfits...the books were only pressured into moving the vig to -130...But after taking a little more money at -3 & -130, the books were ultimately forced off the "key number" of "3"...to NYG -3.5...That is where this line was on Monday morning, but by Monday afternoon...the Wiseguys informed the books, that they still felt there was plenty of value on the G-Men...And they went ahead and laid -3.5 & -4 on them...This prompted the books to adjust the line, all the way to NYG -4.5...and even -5, at some shops...As of this morning, that is the line we are seeing on this match-up...

LINE PREDICTION : With the NYG having lost 3 straight, and the way they looked in losing those games...the oddsmakers and bookmakers just couldn't be sure what kind of adjustments the Outfits had made on their "ratings"...But they found out quickly, that the Wiseguys hadn't adjusted as much as they had expected...Now that the line is at 5, the sportsbooks will see plenty of 2-way betting action from the public on this game...Which means that the Wiseguys will be the ones who dictate where this ends up...If they attempt to work a middle, then we will see this dip back down to 4, and possibly 3.5...otherwise, expect it to stay steady and hover around 5 until game-time...VR

 

Those are the NCAAFB & NFL "Early Moves" that my own "Ratings" show to offer the most betting value...when compared to the "price" offered by the sportsbooks...

As I stated in previous blogs, the Outfits have made a name for themselves...and have beaten the books badly, by simply trying to cash more tickets than they trash...Which most times, means a winning percentage around 55-57%...

Please feel free to add your comments, questions, insight, ect...to this blog, because by keeping a conversation going, we can really help each other with finding some Winners for this week...

Thanks again for all your support, and don't forget to try and do what we touched on at the start of this week's blog post...for this week's games...At least in the NFL...Best of Luck, Vegas-Runner...


 

 

  • A MUST BUMP for ALL........Great Info as ALWAYS Ace.

  • Nice read.  Luv the G-men this Sunday & gettin' down early myself.  Can't understand backing the Buffs, but maybe thats where the value lies.  Your explanation is how I bet footall.  Surprised there is no action on bama/lsu.  Seems to be alotta luv for the tigers early in that one - beknowst to be.  Great job VR - luv this stuff.

  • Vegas Runner seemingly wins not matter what he touches.

  • where does the Tulsa steam come from?  They haven't been anywhere near as good as they were last year and Houston has already had a let down game.

  • as always VR, great stuff. Very educational read for everyone, regardless of how much line experience you have. Thanks for the weekly articles. First class my friend!

  • Hey VR

    I just started getting into NFL handicapping and reading your "True Steam" blog, and I was wondering why the line movement in the SF/TEN from -5.5 to -4 game is not true steam?

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  • Thanks Fellas...I'm glad you guys are enjoying the weekly "True Steam"...I really take pride in giving you accurate info, and also trying to get you winning info...VR

    defaz....I'm not sure when you started following these blogs, but I'm glad you brought that up because there are a lot of new members joining our community each week...

    There are a LOT more "True Steam" Plays that the Betting Syndicates make each week...as well as many more "Early Moves" than what I choose to use...

    But with that said, what I am trying to do is choose those "Steam Plays" that they make early...which are supported the most by my own "Ratings"...So they may Steam a Side or Total...but if my own line for the game don't show that there is a lot of value, then I don't use it...

    I try to pick those "early moves" that I like the most...Meaning, if the games were going off the day I publish...those would be the positions that I would be willing to take...

    Finally, you are 100% correct...the TITANS did get "Steamed" by the Outfits...on Monday afternoon...but then on Wed they bought some of that back...then decided to bet the Titans again this morning, wherever they could find +4.5...That tells me they think that Value is on +4.5 or better...But my own line was pretty close to what's posted, so I didn't choose that game...That's not to say that later in the week, my handicapp won't support the Titans also, in which case...the fact that I know the Wiseguys are also on it, would help me Confirm it and make it an official bet...But as of today, I haven't made any decision either way...

    Best of luck and thanks for joining the conversation and please, feel free to always add your insight, opinions, or comments whenever you like...

    This blog is for all of us to share info and possibly help each other make some money by beating the books...VR

  • GREAT INSIGHT, love this blog.

    A few other games that caught my eye...

    -Maryland moving over a key number +7.5 to +6.5, there was value with more than a TD it looks like, conference game and all.

    -Baylor had a slight move from +16 to +14 and there is still the 2 TD value there, but since it is holding steady at +14 the guys only want more than 2 TDs it looks like and we should be able to get it with the public heavy on Missouri.

    -Florida moved from -32.5 to -35 in most shops which is a good size move, but a 5 TD in-conference dog is enough for the public to slightly back Vandy, this one should stay at 35 or a small drop before kick off.

    -California also jumped over the key number from -6 to -7/-7.5, and with the public slightly on Oregon St, the value number on Cal is clearly under a touchdown, which you might get on Saturday, but expect 7.

    -FIU opened as 14 point dogs, now only +11.5. It moved past a few key numbers, 14, 13.5, 13, and should hold steady around 11.5, this is not a very high volume public game so you can't expect Joe to move this line.

    Good Luck to all!

  • VR, You are the MAN! I am new to the website but have been following your true steam report since i found out about the site. You are a real Pro, keep up the good work! any thoughts on that Cal game..I like Cal I just think they are a much better team than Oregon St.

  • Vr,

    what are your thoughts on tonights game..temple opened at 13 now 17.5...pretty big move!

  • What are your thoughts on Boise -21

  • Thanks a lot for helping me understand why the line moved in the TITANS game.

    I had just started reading this blog a few days ago and after I started to understand it better, that game really caught me eye, so I was just checking to see if I understood the line movement in that game properly.

    Thanks for the great insight!

  • Line Predictions from Vegas Runner: pregame.com/.../line-move-predictions-weekend-of-nov-6th-2009.aspx

  • Fellas...I set aside some time this morning, so that I can take a look at the games you asked about...I'll try and pass along what I do know, and try to do so each week because I'm sure there are a lot of "Moves" that you may have questions on...

    Remember, this is a Blog where we can all share information with each other...So please feel free to post your opinions or anything else you want...

    Thanks again, VR

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