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This forum thread is dedicated to a conversation with VegasButcher.

Here is his Pregame.com homepage.

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Vegas Butcher Bio

Betting History

I started betting in the early 2000’s, when I was in college.  During that time, betting was more of a ‘fun’ activity, something to make watching random games more enjoyable.  I realized fairly early on that you are not going to make a lot of money, if any at all, betting this way.  I learned that bookmakers utilize advanced algorithms, models if you will, to set their odds/spreads/totals and it became apparent that in order to be competitive in this business, one had to do so as well.  Once I grasped the basic concepts it was time to start building out models myself.  The key for me was learning and understanding ‘advanced sports statistics’, and those became the backbone of all my statistical models, which I use extensively for sports betting to this day.

Pick Selling History

I started selling sports-picks in 2012.  The difficult part for me was managing my handicapping and advanced-stats modeling time, with marketing, website design, and customer service.  The opportunity at Pregame.com fits me perfectly, as they excel in all three of those latter components, providing me with an opportunity to focus exclusively on my handicapping and interaction with members of the Pregame community.  I’m motivated to provide excellent insight, detailed analysis, and most importantly, winning plays for my clients.  My drive to succeed is second to none, and nothing brings me more joy than sharing my success with the community.

Winning Results

Since posting my picks and records in the public forums , I’ve gone 2,354 – 2,045 for a 54% winning percentage over the years, good for +118.4 Units of profit.  I’m very proud of this career mark, as I know first hand how hard it is to attain a ‘winning’ record in sports betting.  (updated 8/3/2015).

Handicapping Style

My handicapping style relies on advanced statistical modeling, in-depth situational analysis, and fundamental understanding of motivational angles.  I believe it’s very important to understand where the odds/spreads/totals come from by the bookmakers, and to have a strong grasp for those numbers.  My ability to decipher whether or not there’s “value” in a particular line, gives me a strong edge over a lot of handicappers.  Furthermore, I believe it’s very important to stay humble, to be open to others’ feedback, and most importantly, to always be willing to learn.  There are a lot of great “new-age” stats that are helping people understand sports and the games that we love to watch.  Ability to stay flexible, to accept change, and to always crave to improve is critical to be a successful handicapper in the long-term.  I feel that my handicapping style fits in very well with an ever-changing sports-betting environment and thus I feel I’m the type of a sports-bettor that has the ability to succeed for many years to come.

Best Sports

I primarily specialize in professional sports like NFL, NBA, and MLB.  This is due to the magnitude of advanced statistics that these sports have available as well as being my favorite sports to watch.  NHL, Soccer, College Football, and College Basketball are just getting into the ‘advanced stats’ revolution, but they’re just not there yet.

Written Analysis Style: Typically I provide a concrete and to the point analysis surrounding my best bets.  I don’t bog it down with useless trends or confusing unrelated data, just focus on the facts. 

Pick Release Timing: Typically picks will be released early in the morning on the weekdays and overnight/early morning on weekends. 

Motto:

Whether you prefer rare, medium, or well done, VegasButcher delivers great plays every time!

Relationship With Followers

I think it’s very important for the customer to be comfortable with the handicapper that they invest their hard-earned money into.  I’d like to be that handicapper.  Every true professional handicapper works hard, has the best intentions in mind, and wants to be a long-term winner.  But not every professional handicapper has the ability to decipher a game and/or particular matchup in a detailed manner.  I believe that I DO have that ability.  I love analyzing sports, projecting teams’ game plans, and deciphering advanced statistical models.  I believe that’s where the ‘edge’ comes from in beating the bookmakers on a consistent basis.  I promise to always be available to my customers when they have questions and concerns, and to always behave in the most professional and respectful manner.  My goal is to build strong long-term relationships at Pregame.com, relationships built on trust, honesty, transparency, and most importantly, on long-term results.  Thank you to everyone who is willing to invest in me, and I’ll do everything in my power to ensure that you are not disappointed.  I feel honored to join the Pregame family.

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Pregame’s Community Capper Goals …

We’ve been extremely selective with this program. Vegas Butcher is only our second Community Capper.

Key Characteristics of a Community Capper:

* Earning a large following through quality content

* Passion to help others in the community

* No Drama

SleepyJ has done the concept of a "community capper" proud. My goal was to find a second community capper who could meet that elite standard. It's been a long search, but we have that with Vegas Butcher.

Community has always been a strong focus of my vision – with the forum being the center of activity. Our goal simply stated: any sports bettor who wants to connect with other sports bettors will have an enjoyable place to do so at Pregame.com.

Over the years I’ve come to understand that a certain percentage of people who make a substantial effort to grow a forum following are motivated by the opportunity to monetize that effort (i.e., make money). Competitors have encouraged strong Pregame posters to sell at their sites. In response, we’ve has tried to encourage those who started selling elsewhere to continue to provide content to the Pregame community in exchange for reasonable outside promotion in their signature.

What many of these posters have discovered is such an approach is fool’s gold. Pregame customers, for the most part, don’t want to go to some site they have no relationship with and buy picks . . . in addition, the posters struggle to balance their continuing effort in the Pregame community with their effort to sell elsewhere.

The Community Capper was designed with a mutual-win in mind (a win for both the poster and the Pregame community) … increasing the amount of free community contribution while at the same time giving an opportunity to those who are willing to make the required effort and sacrifice to earn as a pick-seller.

Said another way, the Community Capper program is for those who …
a) who want to give more to the community
b) who the community wants more from

It’s important to realize that the community dictates a large part of the selection process. (since the community dictates the size and quality of a poster’s following). History shows us that the size of a poster’s following has a lot to do with winning/quality content . . . but there are other factors, including the poster’s displayed character and disposition. Even though it’s impossible to know the deep-down truth of another person, the community has collectively done a good job of showing support to good people. And, if at any time a Community Capper shows himself to be other than a good person, he will be immediately removed from the program.

Another beauty of this approach is if a poster is disgruntled about not being included in the program, complaining to me won’t do any good . . . instead, they will need to step up their effort to grow their community following. This merit-based approach will likely have a motivating effect on many – fueling Pregame.com’s aggressive move in the direction of being even more community focused.

What’s being sold?

This is where the program is even more innovative . . .

Community Cappers have the ability to offer a MAXIMUM of only one pick per day for sale. The rest will remain free (including all other picks and other types of content).

Pricing on each day’s single pay pick:
Most will be only $5.
Games of the Week and Games of the Month $6
Each season, a capper can have seven “Special 7” picks – these will be sold for $7

Even better, Community Capper purchases are eligible for discounts available through Bulk Dollars, Pregame Rewards, plus other periodic discount offers.

This bargain pricing is especially exciting. There are a huge number of small-dollar sports bettors who would benefit from expert picks, but the modest amount they bet per game makes it hard to justify the typical industry pick prices. Quite simply, the Community Capper program allows more modest bettors to benefit from expert picks. That’s a big deal.

Idealist may say that 100% free is better than paying for anything, but getting almost everything free and having the choice to pay a modest amount for one pick is much better than a poster motivated by money simply leaving (resulting in the community getting nothing).

Why the Community Capper program is NOT for every extraordinary poster

On the surface, making money from doing what you love sounds appealing. But pick selling has more than a few pitfalls . . . including the scorn of some who lost money after buying your pick, in addition to the day in and day out demand of consistent effort. A poster with a big following can take off the weekend when his buddies are in town, or when there’s an important family event, or when hung over . . . but more will be expected from a Community Capper. For some it will be worth it – for others (the majority, I suspect), the satisfaction of contributing to the community (and the community’s appreciation of the effort) will allow for a more enjoyable experience. The contributor driven by only passion has always been highly valued by Pregame.com, and that has certainly continued.

Even among those who generally like the idea of selling, being a Community Capper will not be a good fit for many. For some, being limited to selling only one pick per day may not seem like smart business (I totally disagree; my experience shows that the community will support those who provide them with the most value) and others may question the low price (I again disagree, believing that this program reaches an entirely new market of sports bettors who have never been able to benefit from pay picks). Our roster of Pros provide quality free content and pay picks which make sense for a certain sized bettor. The Community Cappers serve a different market – allowing the two groups of handicappers to work together rather than feel competitive.

This program is truly unique. The restrictions and demands are substantial – requiring an intense commitment to the community. It’s been purposefully engineered to attract the type of contributor we seek, while repelling the type we don’t.

Pregame’s Role

The Community Cappers are independent. The only requirement (but it’s a big one) will be following Pregame’s pick selling rules (including the amount of free content, all pick results being transparent, all streak promotions accurate, etc).

Importantly, your transaction will be with Pregame – and we will 100% Guarantee that it’s entirely safe, and that you receive EXCACTLY what you are promised. WE will take ultimate dollars & cents responsibility NO MATTER WHAT. With no worries about getting ripped off, a customer is able to focus completely on deciding which experts offer the most value on any given day.

RJ Bell - Pregame.com Founder & CEO | Twitter: @RJinVegas

jimmyboy
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I'm proud to say i will be your first customer in this thread.

Looking forward to the action.

Go get 'em Butcher!!!

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jimmyboy

I'm proud to say i will be your first customer in this thread.

Looking forward to the action.

Go get 'em Butcher!!!

Thanks Jimmy.  Much appreciated. 

I hope we get this one tonight!

mason62
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Best Wishes to you VB........

spartan
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Once again I want to welcome you to our team. Best wishes for success my friend.

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HarryBaseball
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Best of luck Butcher!
SportWinsLossesTiesWin %$ Won
MLB11377259.472673.00
NBA95064.29350.00
NHL89147.06-88.00
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mason62

Best Wishes to you VB........

thank you Mason.  Much appreciated

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spartan

Once again I want to welcome you to our team. Best wishes for success my friend.

Thank you Spartan.  

Means a lot..

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HarryBaseball
Best of luck Butcher!

Thank you Harry.  

U2 buddy

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