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* The Great Destroyer: Barack Obama's War on the Republic *

* The Great Destroyer: Barack Obama's War on the Republic *
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pollingmatters.gallup.com/.../obama-announces.html

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Right on time ConorB. So I guess it can happen Dennis.

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This thread stresses me out, you guys post blatant Republican propaganda and when people like Midnite Football try to make normal points he is shot down...I'm not worried as I don't believe the American people want to step backwards by electing Romney..

As for taxes, Obama is right - your highest rate of tax is something ridiculous like 35%!! Tax should be charged at a higher rate for higher earners, that is only fair and it WOULD NOT stop investment, the suggestion otherwise is plainly ridiculous

p.s. Bill O'Reilly is a bigot

35% Income + 8% State + 10% sales + 4.5% Social Security(temporarily reduced from 6.5%) + 6.5% company matching Social Security= 64%  then add property taxes and business license fees and some areas have a 1% occupational tax.    Considering 50% of the people pay ZERO income tax, how can you say ridiculous?  

 

Highest rate of income tax, the other taxes you mention are independent of income tax - you can't just add them all up and come to a figure it deosnt work like that - they are all differetn sources of income

Why can't you add them up?  35% federal 8% state income tax The Fed takes 11% of my income for Social Security and the city I live in takes 1% of income as an occupational tax. Plus now Obamacare is a tax!  I'm working for less than 36% of my income so why would I take a risk to try and make more by investing?  If there is no reward for spending years in college or working for nothing building a business then everyone will just become lazy mediocre non productive members of society. 

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Connor-what country do you live in and what is the tax system?

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midnite football

 but he was at 13% before he left.

13, 25, what's the difference, right?!! Stick out tongue

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116500/presidential-approval-ratings-george-bush.aspx

 

 

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Obama's got a long way to go to raise his 44% closer to 50. How does he raise it at all, actually, all things considered? I just don't see it. There's nothing he can do to raise that more than a point, MAYBE 2.

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ConorB

This thread stresses me out, you guys post blatant Republican propaganda and when people like Midnite Football try to make normal points he is shot down...I'm not worried as I don't believe the American people want to step backwards by electing Romney..

As for taxes, Obama is right - your highest rate of tax is something ridiculous like 35%!! Tax should be charged at a higher rate for higher earners, that is only fair and it WOULD NOT stop investment, the suggestion otherwise is plainly ridiculous

p.s. Bill O'Reilly is a bigot

35% Income + 8% State + 10% sales + 4.5% Social Security(temporarily reduced from 6.5%) + 6.5% company matching Social Security= 64%  then add property taxes and business license fees and some areas have a 1% occupational tax.    Considering 50% of the people pay ZERO income tax, how can you say ridiculous?  

 

Highest rate of income tax, the other taxes you mention are independent of income tax - you can't just add them all up and come to a figure it deosnt work like that - they are all differetn sources of income

Why can't you add them up?  35% federal 8% state income tax The Fed takes 11% of my income for Social Security and the city I live in takes 1% of income as an occupational tax. Plus now Obamacare is a tax!  I'm working for less than 36% of my income so why would I take a risk to try and make more by investing?  If there is no reward for spending years in college or working for nothing building a business then everyone will just become lazy mediocre non productive members of society. 

35% Federal, on ALL of your income? or PART of it?

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Connor-what country do you live in and what is the tax system?

In Ireland Toof, it's similair to the tax system in America

- I don't pay any tax up to a certain income then after that I pay 22% plus a universal charge of 3% on all income. Any earnings over something like 35k p/a are taxed at 41%

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Bickering aside, doesn't this election REALLY boil down to one thing...TAXES? As more and more people become govt dependent, the more the govt will insist on raising taxes to pay for all these entitlements. Do you like to keep the money you work hard for or do you like to give more and more of it to the govt? That's the question.

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Dennis but services need to be paid for in any society this means funds need to be raise by paying taxes. Nobody likes to pay tax but unfortunately it is necessary

And if tax is such an issue why has Romney not released his tax returns, he has tens of millions sitting in various tax havens for what reason other than to avoid paying his tax!

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