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you would think wise guy would know....

you would think wise guy would know....
dmak13
Joined: 03/19/2011
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I read that PGF has had 5 straight losing weeks & there's people out there who are tracking them.  VR is 19-20 since joining (minus money)...and the rest all ALL losing right now too!

Look at his website now…showing April, May, June hot streak…

No mention of Jan, Feb, March records at all. Just gone!

Also…for the SuperBowl, his "BIGGEST BET OF THE SEASON" was on Broncos pick. When they lost, he bragged about his futures on Seahawks.

His clients played his BIGGEST BET OF THE SEASON and lost…and when I asked him about it…he blocked me.

Dude no doubt has some good information, but NO ONE wins everyday and EVERY week…and we just have to be humble and call it as it is!

Now I know I don't have a book written about me, but I do update records weekly & call it as it is.  Too bad that TONS of people pay that crew to lose them $$$$.

Humility in Winning and Accountability in Losses.

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johnnymo
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What a scammer. Sad thing is He must not even know the rules.

I am a Pregame.com Director of the Boards! 2010-2011 CFB/NFL Combined 60-42

DJ Wondabread
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There are several accounts on twitter, sheep tracker and animal tracker just to name a few, that track all of the "animal" picks daily. They "bet" on stale lines and STILL manage to lose!!! No doubt that VR is a good source of information on sports betting and Las Vegas as a whole, but I would never pay for their "picks".

Third year sports bettor NFL/ CFB/ CBB/ NBA. Always looking to learn, criticism always welcomed.

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Eric Cogdell
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You mean their great "steam" bets? Give me a break. As has been stated, NONE of the lines they release are ever available and they STILL continue to swirl down the toilet. I predicted it here first, that VR would bring his (EVEN WORSE) mojo to the zoo and that does certainly appear to have happened. Oh well, birds of a feather flock together. Good riddance.

Stella bay
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I can say i didn't win and have their text package. So just FYI

Matt Dillon
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Just goes to show you, it Doesn't Matter How Much knowledge you have on these games its STILL a Crap Shoot! EVEN if you live this stuff 20 hrs. a day! Hell, all you have to do is look back at pete rose, do you think ANYBODY knew more about the players & games than he did & he STILL LOST his A$$! jmo!  

Broker1977
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I think you have to make a wager when you have an edge in information.  Last night, I took the under 8.5 after reading about info on the home plate umpire being 12 of 17 to the under.  He obviously has a big strike zone and forces batters to swing at bad pitches, which results in more strikeouts, weak ground balls and pop ups.  Did not win because of the rainout.  Look for an edge on a side or total before making a bet!!  Public on Sunday night games will play the over, so a bigger advantage to the under player last night.

Lloyd Christmas
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Broker1977

I think you have to make a wager when you have an edge in information.  Last night, I took the under 8.5 after reading about info on the home plate umpire being 12 of 17 to the under.  He obviously has a big strike zone and forces batters to swing at bad pitches, which results in more strikeouts, weak ground balls and pop ups.  Did not win because of the rainout.  Look for an edge on a side or total before making a bet!!  Public on Sunday night games will play the over, so a bigger advantage to the under player last night.

I'm not sure knowing a small sample trend that is widely available constitutes having an edge in information.  If the information is easily attainable, it's likely already factored into the line.  A way of checking this is looking at the line history and there was no movement towards the under.

Your second point has some merit, especially if you have square shops in your rotation.  I had my proxy/beard bet u8.5 at Sportsbook because it was +100 when the consensus no vig was -105.  Pinny was shaded even more at -107

You want a handicapping tip?  Spend as much time getting a good number as you do researching games. Depositing/withdrawing/depositing/withdrawing is a pain, but I guarantee you will lose less, or win more.  I can't guarantee that for any other piece of advice 

"There is no such thing as luck, just random fluctuations of probability"

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