Lloyd, have a question for you sir, if you are a us player that cannot get multiple outs and beat closers what do you do ???, I am stuck with the final line at scores and odds , just fade the steam I guess, or compare to the offshores, I study line movements , especially spread/moneyline movements in the line history..with mixed results, but getting a good number is not an option for me and I would guess others whom go through locals.....thanks