Just found this interesting Thread.

Don't have much time now, but in the Quick:

This "Player" will LOSE his Lawsuit. This has been adjudicated in Nevada decades ago - Ken Uston and others LOST every Lawsuit - Courts have "protected" Casinos from Advantage Players.

The Casinos are there to TAKE your money. They are not there to GIVE you anything. In a strange way I root for the Casinos ONLY in that Regard that people are soooooo f stupid thinking that they are there to GIVE away Riches. Typical Marxist Commie Didn't Earn It ( DEI). The Robin Hood Mentality - steal from the Rich and give to the Poor. F the Poor. No one was more Poor than me as a young toddler in Baltimore, MD. I decided a long long time ago to WORK my way out from the Poor and I did it. You can too. Get a job. I had FOUR jobs in my twenties. Get a job.

SpaceMan1

If it's a serious crime to deprive someone of their rights by a lawful authority, how much more of a crime is it for an unlawful "authority"? It's basically legally considered kidnapping to hold someone against their will. Security should have just escorted him off the property which they have every right to do.

You can "detain" or make a Citizen's Arrest until the PROPER LEA gets there to decide what to do.
After re-reading this story again, it LOOKS like they did call Law Enforcement but either they:
1) did NOT know what to do;
2) Awaited a response from the DA's Office which apparently never came in time;
3) Watch Commander at the contacted LEA decided to "drop the ball" and not get involved.

I was a Security Guard in Maryland part-time back in the days 1980s and we COULD and DID make the occasional "Citizens' Arrest(s)". Once the County Sheriffs arrived, we were "done" other than getting paid to testify in Court what happened. Talk about easy FREE-like money that was GOLD! I lived in MD for the first 37 years of my Life( a few in PA and commuting to my jobs in MD & DC) and I have no idea what has changed as far as the Law Enforcement Agencies can or cannot do....

Now this stink about the Casino "detaining" this clown - he is saying that they "kidnapped " him. There is a big difference between "detaining" and kidnapping. It USED to be in Louisiana and the Panama Canal you could "detain" for 48 hours before detainee rights could sue you. LA & Panama Canal under the old Napoleonic Code Model until 1979. What will probably happen if this clown makes a big stink is the Casino will pay the clown off, but ban him and this will be a State Ban - NO Maryland Casinos will admit him, similar to Nevada, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news but ALL the Casinos share tapes, intel, info on problem players....

If I get the time I will look up a few cases where BlackJack players, College hoops players tried to sue the Nevada Casinos and the ALL lost EXCEPT the occasional player who got punched by a Guard/Cop, etc. They won some damages, but not enough to retire if you know what I mean....I remember a Massachusetts lawsuit where a Sports bettor won his case but LOST on Appeal - the State( MA) decided that Casinos were....ENTERTAINMENT and thus can ACT like Entertainers and there should be no expectation from the Public of "extracting a living as a subsistence player"...taken right off the lawsuit from Ken Uston of Reno, Nevada. But Uston won some cash because he was astute enough to have his girlfriend take that Polaroid camera photo with the blood out of his eyes the Guard hit him so hard and the County Sheriff was in the room with them and allowed this. Uston left the USA and was beaten close to death in Costa Rica....

I am writing this stuff of-the-cuff as it has been many years when I was heavily involved with the Casino business. Notice I left that business forever 10 years ago and the only thing I like is to beat the Oddsmakers for the NFL - the toughest endeavor of all!!!

SpaceMan1

Edit:

Uston's Wikipedia page does not tell about his Costa Rico beating( robbery) or getting punched in Reno by the Guards.

My mother worked at the Sands and then the Dunes and met Uston back in those days.

Uston also had a book " One Third of a Shoe" and I will see if I can find that....

SpaceMan1

A Citizens Arrest is no different than any other arrest in that in order to make such an arrest or detainment you have to have probable cause that an actual crime has been or may have been committed. The article clearly states that what he was allegedly doing was not illegal. So what was the probable cause of a crime committed?

In a court of law holding someone against their will for ANY amount of time constitutes kidnapping.

We live in a Constitutional Republic. Imagine what it would be like if anyone anywhere decided to "detain" you without any probable cause that you committed a crime.

Security are supposed to observe and report. Yes, anyone can make a citizens arrest but if there is no probable cause that a crime was committed then you run the risk of being involved in a lawsuit just like what we see here.

Jordan Kerr needs to go to the Gym, So the next time he is surround by 60 year old security men, he can kick the bollox out of them.

To MRBIG

One of the part-time jobs I still do now we just had the very same thing happen:

This homeless man was asked very nicely to LEAVE and he refused.

Security was called and the homeless man suddenly remembered English but still refused to leave

Santa Barbara Police were called - a fight broke out

it was three against one and this 160 lb. homeless guy was actually winning the fight

The Security guard pepper sprayed the re-invarnated Sugar Ray Robinson and finally the cops arrested him

on the same place the white Van ran people down last week, "The Wharf" were the Cruise ship patrons shop.

Long story short, this "Activist" from LA drives all the way up here to sue the city of Santa Barbara in behalf of this

beloved homeless scum.

City of Santa Barbara settled for $222,000-something.

Now don't take MY word for anything. Look this shit up for yourselves.

The Santa Barbara Independent publishes stuff in spite of those rich old white broads that are BILLIONAIRES.

They succeeded in bankrupting the Santa Barbara News Press. They fight back THEIR way.

If you try to "dox" me to get me fired that will backfire:

They already told me to NOT make a video about this because I AM outraged.

SpaceMan1

SpaceMan1Returns said:

To MRBIG

One of the part-time jobs I still do now we just had the very same thing happen:

This homeless man was asked very nicely to LEAVE and he refused.

Security was called and the homeless man suddenly remembered English but still refused to leave

Santa Barbara Police were called - a fight broke out

it was three against one and this 160 lb. homeless guy was actually winning the fight

The Security guard pepper sprayed the re-invarnated Sugar Ray Robinson and finally the cops arrested him

on the same place the white Van ran people down last week, "The Wharf" were the Cruise ship patrons shop.

Long story short, this "Activist" from LA drives all the way up here to sue the city of Santa Barbara in behalf of this

beloved homeless scum.

City of Santa Barbara settled for $222,000-something.

Now don't take MY word for anything. Look this shit up for yourselves.

The Santa Barbara Independent publishes stuff in spite of those rich old white broads that are BILLIONAIRES.

They succeeded in bankrupting the Santa Barbara News Press. They fight back THEIR way.

If you try to "dox" me to get me fired that will backfire:

They already told me to NOT make a video about this because I AM outraged.

SpaceMan1

Totally different set of circumstances. The homeless man was asked nicely to leave and he refused. Therefore he got "bounced".

In the original scenario with the "advantage player", He was not asked nicely or otherwise to leave. He actually volunteered to leave on his own volition rather than provide ID (which is his right to anonymity/privacy). But Security decided they were not going to allow him to leave.

I hope you can see the difference