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I guess Pregame is not above the BS marketing for paid plays.....

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I guess Pregame is not above the BS marketing for paid plays.....
Worldvision
Joined: 10/30/2013
Posts: 49
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Some day I hope I can change the ways customers paid for these expert handicapper!s pick.  When I become a nfl handicapper some day, I will only charge my customer only if they win with my picks.  At the end of nfl season if my customer overall come out a loss I will give back up to 100% of all 20% commission I charge per week only if u win.  I am very different from other handicappers because I never consider myself as an expert and all my picks all the same (3***)

illuminati11
Joined: 01/12/2012
Posts: 535
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He's in the top 15 currently in the Hilton Supercontest, so I figure he can't be doing to bad in the NFL (with side bets, at least)....maybe I'm wrong. I've never purchased his picks but have always respected his opinions and insight

Reko
Joined: 01/13/2011
Posts: 1089
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Jeff Carson

Another pointless thread, win or lose these pro's are trying there best, you really think they want to lose, man its a marathon not a sprint, and i am sure when VR or whoever has a good day, i bet you don't come on here given them props, so do this site a favor and cry me a river somewhere else. i understand losing sucks we have all been there, but seriously making up a thread like this isn't going to put the money back into your pocket. Take your lose like a man, and get it back starting tonight, good luck

JC ... with all due respect, put down the kool-aid and reread what Natural wrote. If you were to tabulate the "Pro's" records at just a 100 sample, you would be amazed at how deep in the red most all of them are, never mind "Long Term" which is publicized yet very difficult to tabulate. 

If you advertise a specific sample "run of good luck" just make sure to put a disclaimer that I'm actually sucking but I win a lotta MNF games for instance, or some sh$% ... 

Nothing wrong with hyping a record, but the shady side of pick selling is exposed when your actual record conflicts with your sales pitch. 

 

"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." John Wooden

The natural
Joined: 01/08/2013
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I think everyone understands there is a losing side to sports betting Jeff, but thanks for clearing that up.  I should have paid closer attention to his skewed records before purchasing his package.  This is a message for others out there to be more careful before they purchase.  Not trying to throw anybody under the bus, but facts are these stats are bogus.  I have found far more valuable info from people on these forums for free anyway ie: Hizz, Madman, Sharky, Jeff Scott, Bruno and many others.  

Jeff Carson
Joined: 09/29/2013
Posts: 560
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Then natural stop bitching , you made the choice of paying for picks so you have no one to be angry at but yourself, you def cleared up the fact that you know nothing about sports betting by not even doing your homework before making your decision to pay picks. And for any of you that have a problem with my comments, it's simple, pick your own games then we wouldn't have these threads that your butt hurt because VR had a bad day. I doubt that these pros on here use false records to entice people to but picks. Move on, wipe your tears away and start a new week.

razorback fan
Joined: 10/24/2007
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What we have here, is a failure to communicate.

Insanity:  Doing the same thing and expecting different results.

We shall see.

2014-2015

CFB:  7-6  (+3.6u)

NFL:  1-1  (-0.05u)

lazylover
Joined: 01/01/2013
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lol, that is exactly what they use....but you should still never pay for a guess on a live event that is as good as yours

UnemployedSharp
Joined: 09/20/2012
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My guesses in football this year have resulted in at the very least a 60% tally. I'm not specific here but it's got to be at least 60% with a minimum of 300 games combined this year. It is reasonable to assume my guesses are better than yours because of these results and the fact all I do is gamble and watch sports for a living. So the assumption you should never pay for a guess on a live event is false. It depends on who you're paying.

Documented posted plays since Feb 18th 2014...

Overall 58-39-7(+13.01) Sides/Ml's 24-13-3(+9.08) Totals 34-26-4(+3.93) 

Nba 3-3(-2.50) Cbb 28-14(+15.65) Nhl 1-1(-0.25) Mlb 1-2(-1.25) Soccer 15-12-4(+0.18) Tennis 4-4-2(-0.85) Golf 6-3-1(+2.03)

Rare 3 unit plays(3-3-1)  4 units(1-1)

 

shackfu99
Joined: 11/01/2011
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Jeff Carson
win or lose these pro's are trying there best

You can't prove this. How does one know they aren't  just throwing darts? 

Gangster dolphins
Marine biologists studying Australian dolphins discovered that the mammals form complex hierarchies within their pods in order to attack other groups. Some individuals serve as fighters. Others serve as liaisons to go out and recruit new members. These "intricate webs" are rare in the animal kingdom, says Virginia Morell at Wired, and strikingly reminiscent of "the Mafia."

I blame Snoop Dog.

"I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself” WinstonChurchill

UnemployedSharp
Joined: 09/20/2012
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I'm assuming I'm hitting 60% in NcaaF and Nfl, it might be even higher than 60% but I don't document them here. Well I lied, some of my picks are documented here at pregame.com.(nfl 47-26 64%) Of course it doesn't include team totals, 2H, props, live bets etc...I'm not going to debate with you The KIDD. It's wasted energy.

Documented posted plays since Feb 18th 2014...

Overall 58-39-7(+13.01) Sides/Ml's 24-13-3(+9.08) Totals 34-26-4(+3.93) 

Nba 3-3(-2.50) Cbb 28-14(+15.65) Nhl 1-1(-0.25) Mlb 1-2(-1.25) Soccer 15-12-4(+0.18) Tennis 4-4-2(-0.85) Golf 6-3-1(+2.03)

Rare 3 unit plays(3-3-1)  4 units(1-1)

 

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