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ANNOUNCEMENT: Fezzik joins Pregame.com + much more

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RJ_Bell
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BET LIKE A PRO

To win THE MAX in the long run, a sports bettor must:
a) Have access to winning picks
b) Bet like a pro

What does it mean to bet like a pro?

1) Having ENOUGH OUTS to get good numbers
2) Betting early, late, and times in-between: WHENEVER THE BEST NUMBER IS AVAILABLE.
3) Taking advantage of the LESS OBVIOUS BET TYPES – such as futures, teasers, correlated parlays, props, team totals, half-times, quarters, and hedges.
4) Betting reasonable amounts for your bankroll - allowing you to weather the inevitable downturns without going broke.

Most bettors are not able to make the effort and commitment required to bet like a pro – which is 100% fine since there are some who win and millions who have fun with a that less intense approach. But in the past, even those with the desire had no way to BET ALONG WITH a proven winning professional bettor.

The one-of-a-kind BET LIKE A PRO program from Pregame.com changes that.

At $1,000 per month, this program is not for everyone – But if you can provide to us that you have the bankroll and commitment to bet like a pro, we can guarantee you a long-term profit. If you don’t profit over the long-term, you don’t pay a penny!
(and for the majority who are unable, this program will also greatly benefit you)

The first professional bettor to take part in BET LIKE A PRO is Steve Fezzik, the only 2-time Hilton Contest Champion. After Bill Walters, Fezzik is arguably the second most famous professional sports bettor in the world.

Fezzik is the strongest start we could have hoped for with this program – but he is just the beginning! As we become confident that other professional bettors are able to provide: a) long-term net profits b) consistent commitment; c) direct connection with the Pregame.com community – We will be adding more professional bettors to the BET LIKE A PRO program.

What about the old saying: if a bettor can really win, why would he sell picks?

Maybe the least logical cliche ever. The same question could be asked of a hedge fund manager. The simple fact is any professional bettor will want to get down for his full bet amount on every +EV bets . . . but after that amount has been bet, he has nothing more to gain from the pick unless he is able to sell it (and nothing to lose at that point). And as long his bet didn't move the entire market (which is quite rare), his clients will be able to get down at a similar number. It's like an author selling his book both in paperback after selling it in hardback - the real question is WHY NOT?

Individual picks from the Bet Like a Pro program:

When a BET LIKE A PRO participant feels a bet they make offers value for the conventional bettor, they will offer that pick widely for general sale.

When does a bet typically offer value to the conventional better?
1) When the bet type is standard (game side or game total for a major sport)
2) When the spread/odds are widely available

We estimate that less than half the bets made through BET LIKE A PRO will be available for individual purchase.

What does this mean to Pregame.com’s existing pick selling?
Nothing changes. Pregame.com’s current platform has been optimized to give conventional bettors the best possible chance to win at affordable prices. The commitment and effort required from the customer to bet like a pro is not possible (or even aspired to) for a majority of bettors. Pregame.com’s current platform gives that majority the best chance to win.

The same goes for our Pros: most are conventional side and total handicappers – which best serves the vast majority of Pregame.com visitors. Handicapping alterative bets, while also aggressively shopping and timing every bet is a different skill set that benefits only a minority of the Pregame.com community.

Simply said, our current Pros are the best at providing value to the conventional bettor. While I expect our BET LIKE A PRO participants to deliver the most value possible to those willing & able to bet like a pro.

As Pregame.com continues to grow, our goal will be to connect the very best experts with the part of our community they can best help.

Also, in a continuing effort to provide the most value to the largest percentage of our community possible, we will soon be launching a $5 per pick program that will allow even the smallest bettor access to premium winners!

If I don’t join BET LIKE A PRO, why should I care about any of this?

Fair question, with a simple answer: By creating a platform for winning professional bettors to sell their expertise, we will attract an unmatched collection of winning bettors; every pro IS REQUIRED to provide a significant amount of quality FREE info (content everyone will benefit from). For example, Fezzik will be doing weekly videos at Pregame.tv (starting after the Super Bowl) and will be doing one hour of radio with me every Sunday night on FIRST PREVIEW (ESPN Las Vegas and podcast on the Pregame.com homepage)

BET LIKE A PRO = more professional bettors = more quality free content.

Weekly Conference Call:

Like an investment fund, BET LIKE A PRO will have a weekly conference call that all members will have live access to – allowing them to gain understanding about the Pros approach and mindset, while also presenting a weekly opportunity to ask direct questions.

Are there restrictions to joining BET LIKE A PRO?

For perhaps the first time, a pick seller will actually turn customers away. The BET LIKE A PRO business model is that customers will profit over the long-term, and thus stay customers over the long-term. We can only guarantee long-term profits with bettors who:

A) Can reasonably bet $200 per unit (on a 1, 2, 3 unit scale)
B) Has enough outs to get good numbers and get down on alternative bets
C) Willing to actively bet multiple times per day

Our inspiration is the “accredited investor” designation used in Finance
(http://www.sec.gov/answers/accred.htm)

Quite simply, if you meet the criteria, BET LIKE A PRO offers a one-of-a-kind opportunity to bet along with the biggest winners in sports betting.

To schedule an “accredited bettor” phone call, email Johnny@pregame.com

Details: Long-Term Profits

Bets rated 1, 2, 3

$1000 for full month of access.
Minimum of 5 units of profit guaranteed.

If your profit minimum has not been won after the month,
your access continues at no charge till the profit minimum is won.

If the 5-units of minimum profit you purchased has still not been won after a second month, you can continue on with no-charge access for as long as you’d like – OR you can request (at any time) a full CASH REFUND for the paid month that failed to win your 5 units of minimum profit.

No matter how much profit you win in a month, you are never charged more.
Profits over 5 units during a month are carried forward on your account.
There is no limit to the profit you can make, while you are guaranteed 5-units of profit for every month that you pay for.

5 Units of profit for a $200 per unit bettor means that not only will you never pay for picks you do not truly profit from, but also that the guarantee covers the cost of the picks.

Plainly stated, BET LIKE A PRO is a one-of-a-kind offer.

Details of Line Grading:

We’ve selected a cross-section of sportsbooks (5 from Vegas, 5 online):

1) LVH
2) MGM
3) William Hill
4) Stations
5) Coast
6) Pinnacle
7) CRIS
8) Greek
9) 5Dimes
10) Sportsbook.com

At the time of release, the Pro’s line must be available at no less than 3 of these sportsbooks.

The customer absolutely does NOT need access to these 10 specific books. The key fact is that these 10 books are “representative” of the betting market – so if the number is available at 3 or more of these books, a vast majority of the time the number will be available to a bettor with more than a few outs. Occasionally the number will not be available to the customer, but MORE often a better number will be available – meaning that BET LIKE A PRO members will do BETTER in the long-run than won/loss records indicate.

Details: When bets will be released?

As soon as the Pro makes his bet, he will immediately send that bet to his BET LIKE A PRO members. Value may become available at anytime, but bets will typically be during normal waking hours. Each Pro will create a daily release schedule for a majority of the picks, but stray bets will be sent whenever value becomes available.

Details: How bets will be released?

Your choice of any combination of: TEXT, EMAIL, INSTANT MESSAGE

BET LIKE A PRO is superior to any hedge fund!

The pick selling business has many critics (rightfully so in many cases). We work very hard at Pregame.com to overcome the industry’s history. We are particularly proud that BET LIKE A PRO offers clearly superior terms compared to the hedge fund industry (which has Billions of dollars invested from some of the smartest investors on the planet) .

+ No Admin Costs
Typically hedge funds charge an administrative fee of 2% or more no matter if you make or lose money. You do not pay a penny with BET LIKE A PRO unless you profit long-term.

+ When you profit, same monthly cost no matter how much you win
Hedge funds typically charge 20% of profit, with no upside limit on their fees. With BET LIKE A PRO, no matter how much profit you make, your monthly expense is never more than $1,000.

+ Higher Quality Experts
With over 10,000 hedge funds (not to mention other investment vehicles such as private equity, venture capital, and mutual funds) financial talent is spread extremely thin. Since BET LIKE A PRO is the only viable platform for professional bettors to sell their expertise with a long-term profit guarantee, the program has attracted (i.e., Fezzik) and will in the future attract some of the most talented bettors in the world.

+ No Accounting Day Manipulation
Since most hedge funds do their profit accounting on the same day of the month for all investors – this opens the door to manipulation (such on becoming too conservative in an effort to hold a profit, or taking unreasonable risks to achieve a profit). Each BET LIKE A PRO client receives the EXACT same bets. Each BET LIKE A PRO client is accounted for one month from sign-up – meaning the accounting days will be random (thus not allowing for manipulation). With this program, the Pros motivation is 100% aligned with the clients: make winning bets and get paid!

Compared to a hedge fund, BET LIKE A PRO costs less when you win (and also less during periods you don’t win)!

Conclusion:

Just as Pregame.com has created the leading platform for the conventional bettor to max his chances at winning through the help of experts, BET LIKE A PRO offers a one-of-a-kind opportunity (to those who are able to make the effort and commitment) to bet along with the biggest winners in sports betting – paying only if you truly profit.

Please share your feedback and questions . . .

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deliveryman3
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will be interesting.......think toofdoc shud sign up...he's loaded

deliveryman3's last 12 months record in all sports
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Johnny Detroit
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Here is an article from the Las Vegas Sun chronicling his amazing Hilton two-peat: LINK

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mason62
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it all sounds very entertaining and profitable to whoever is willing shell out a grand.. off-course with a better return not withstanding to be gained... we will all be watching & listening, may we have all have good fortunte LOL

Greg Shaker
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Great work getting Fez onboard RJ.

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totallytickets
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RJ....I am interested.   Please let me know what needs to be done to get going.

Johnny Detroit
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Email me. Will schedule a call. Have to fit the profile of a player this will work for.

johnny@pregame.com

 

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Tom12Brady
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I think this is a great idea and something that can be expanded in the future.

I am just writing my 2 cents as I think you guys would want some feedback on this.

My biggest concern would be actually having the time to make the bets. For those of us who work full time it is going to be hard to bet 5-6 times a day, especially since would have to check with all 3 outs to find the best of the number. I also know Fezzik does a lot of "in-game" betting, well, what happens to those of us who live outside of NV and don't have access to Cantor App?  I use 5dimes now and it is has very few in-game betting options

So I am thinking the minimum recommended bankroll would be 20K?

DubV
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This is interesting and has the potential to be a success but you will need at least a 20,000 dollar bankroll plus the 1,000 dollars per month to buy the picks. For those with the money it could very well produce a nice return. Or it could cost you a lot, depending on how good your advisor is.

Here is what concerns me though...you are selling the concept of long term winning, yet Pregame doesn't display the long term records of their pick sellers and continues to allow long term losers to sell their picks and advertise their short term streaks.

I think a program like 'Bet Like A Pro' would be more successful in an environment of openness and honesty. Trust is extremely important when it comes to buying picks. RJ, I urge you for the good of Pregame to provide easy access to the long term records of the handicappers you allow to sell picks. In the end it will benefit Pregame and the consumer.

Congrats on the new program and I wish you all the best,

DubV

Johnny Detroit
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As RJ mentioned. If you told me you worked 9-5 and would not be able to get down at those times you would not be allowed in the program.

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