IMO, its not close. Its not who won the most races, but who was the best horseman, and how smart are you and how much do you know.
LUKAS was a basketball coach, and can't shoe a horse. Can't put a bandage on a horse. But he can hustle millionaires to buy hprsers you and I could train and win with. He never got his hands dirty.
Jack Van Berg, was a groom for over 20 years for hid dad Marion H. Van Berg. Jack ponied horses, Jack groomed horses, while Lukas was husling Bob & Beverly Lewis, Mike Peagram, and others. Jack Van Berg won 10 straight training titles at the Fair Grounds with $2,500.00 claimers. He got to the barn at 4:00 a.m. everyday and still does while Lukas is sleeping while his son Jeff and Todd Pletcher were not getting their hands dirty either, but screaming orders to Mexicans who could not speak English. Ask Billy Mott. Ask Frankie Brothers. Ask trainer Jimmy Jerkins, Wayne Cataslana and many more.