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#76

We tried to define what long term was on here once and it was like pulling teeth trying to get a simple answer from anyone. You have to remember that once people answer that and agree on a number THEN they can be held accountable. for me it would be anything over 500.

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#77

I can't speak for other sports but 85 picks in a nfl  season is a lot of picks and the league changes year to year so by the time you log 500 picks your method will be obsolete.  I made a fortune betting under 10 years ago and have been murdered the last few.  

I think tracking Pinny lines worked but too many people have jumped on board and that train has left the station.

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#78

you can believe that if you want but you will never see me wearing boxers with a square pattern on a day I gamble

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#79

When I originally made my post proving my point about pregame needing ShayMonue, it was not to say that he is or is not a proven winner here. The point was to express to the forums how watching exchanges and getting the best number with EVERY bet are important strategies to long term winners. I don't care what ShayMonue's record over 200 picks is, he's 100% correct. When bad bettors are hitting 49-52% and good bettors are hitting 53-56% (assuming -110 odds), then the margin for error is slim, meaning that getting the best possible number is very very important LONG TERM. You lose less when you lose and you win more when you win. So many people here are concerned simply with handicapping to find an edge, when it is equally important to find the best number possible. That was my point. His importance was not in his individual picks, but rather in his wagering strategy as a whole.

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#80

Unknown said:

Price is EVERYTHING. Understanding the true price is vital to profitable betting.

This is the primary message that needed to be heard by the handicappers on here who will write three paragraphs of analysis but fail to attempt find a good number and/or price. I was guilty of this for a long time until Shay set me straight. 

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#81

Great. We get it. Shay is the greatest thing since sliced wondabread. Can we move on now?

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