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Topic of the Day: Thoughts on choice for Paul Ryan as VP?
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The GOP the last few years has really been one of the most comical things I've ever seen in American Politics. From the laughing stock of candidates they just throw out there to some of the most mind-blowing policies they truly try to propose. (Disclaimer: I'm not an American so I have no apples in the game - neither Dem. nor Rep.)

The republicans have one of the most amazing opportunities this year to throw Obama out of office and they just keep blowing it. It'll be interesting to see in 2106 whether they actually decide to become more moderate when they realize alienating women, seniors, Hispanics and the poor usually doesn't win you elections. They did it in 2008, failed and their solution was really to double down again in 2012?? I don't see honestly how any of this changes if the Tea Baggers they have in keep their seats. The Far Right has taken over that party and it's sad. Which is so dumb, because if Republicans nominated a competent moderate conservative they’d win these future elections with landslide margins.

However, GOP supporters are just rolling with it refusing to acknowledge to need to change their party's directions. The GOP God Reagan wouldn't have made it out of these primaries - that's how far right they've gone.

Nixon would be a screaming liberal(EPA), Bush Sr would be too liberal, but I think you hit the nail on the head about Raygun. Well, I'm orf to walk the dog.

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FYI: When my wife and I decide to start drawing from SS we will receive about $35,000 a year plus whatever else our investments will afford us, which is substantial. So I don't think we will need any of the rest of YOU TO PROVIDE HELP. Hopefully, we will live long enough to draw what we put in.

  You're getting the $35,000 from Social Security and that was my point, you need the rest of us to pay into the ponzi scheme so you can cash out.  You don't care about the new workers just starting out even when you know they will never be able to get their "investment" back.  You are unwilling to sacrifice anything to improve the likely hood of SS being solvent in the future. 

You are "hopefully" planning on living long enough to draw what you put in?  If you do that then who is going to pay for all the people that collect more than they put in?  You are a typical liberal that wants someone else to pay for the ones that never take responsibility for themselves but are too near sighted to see beyond today.  We are a broke country that borrows 40% of every dollar spent so people like you with "substantial investments" need to pay more and take less instead of passing the buck to someone else.  Ryan's plan will at least attempt to make needed cuts instead of speeding the ship up as it approaches the iceberg. 

It is not a Ponzi scheme, it is easily fixable and your characterization of me is unfair and completely insulting. Since my daughter is still in college, I care very much about the next generation. Get rid of the cap on SS is a solution I am willing to subscribe to even though it would cost me personally thousands of dollars. In my state I voted against school vouchers even though it would have saved me thousands of dollars. I am not a selfish person and will sacrifice for the common good. For you to insinuate otherwise is a personal attack and on this thread that is something you need to be very careful about.

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FYI: When my wife and I decide to start drawing from SS we will receive about $35,000 a year plus whatever else our investments will afford us, which is substantial. So I don't think we will need any of the rest of YOU TO PROVIDE HELP. Hopefully, we will live long enough to draw what we put in.

  You're getting the $35,000 from Social Security and that was my point, you need the rest of us to pay into the ponzi scheme so you can cash out.  You don't care about the new workers just starting out even when you know they will never be able to get their "investment" back.  You are unwilling to sacrifice anything to improve the likely hood of SS being solvent in the future. 

You are "hopefully" planning on living long enough to draw what you put in?  If you do that then who is going to pay for all the people that collect more than they put in?  You are a typical liberal that wants someone else to pay for the ones that never take responsibility for themselves but are too near sighted to see beyond today.  We are a broke country that borrows 40% of every dollar spent so people like you with "substantial investments" need to pay more and take less instead of passing the buck to someone else.  Ryan's plan will at least attempt to make needed cuts instead of speeding the ship up as it approaches the iceberg. 

It is not a Ponzi scheme, it is easily fixable and your characterization of me is unfair and completely insulting. Since my daughter is still in college, I care very much about the next generation. Get rid of the cap on SS is a solution I am willing to subscribe to even though it would cost me personally thousands of dollars. In my state I voted against school vouchers even though it would have saved me thousands of dollars. I am not a selfish person and will sacrifice for the common good. For you to insinuate otherwise is a personal attack and on this thread that is something you need to be very careful about.

"easily fixable" with other peoples money, just like a said.  If you and your wife both work and you are only going to be drawing $35,000 combined then you are not making over $110,000 individually plus you are very close if not already on the government tit.  Your fix is a very selfish approach and you are asking me to pay more now for something I would still never receive any benefits from because it will still go broke. 

Exactly when did I sign up to secure everyone's retirement?  Taxing me more and require me to pay even more into SS is only preventing me to take care of myself. 

I hate you got ur wittle feewins hurt, but I thought someone that made the hee haw comment, called me a rube, said I was old,bitter, and intolerant, and thinks people that think differently than you are ignorant could handle the truth.

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FYI: When my wife and I decide to start drawing from SS we will receive about $35,000 a year plus whatever else our investments will afford us, which is substantial. So I don't think we will need any of the rest of YOU TO PROVIDE HELP. Hopefully, we will live long enough to draw what we put in.

  You're getting the $35,000 from Social Security and that was my point, you need the rest of us to pay into the ponzi scheme so you can cash out.  You don't care about the new workers just starting out even when you know they will never be able to get their "investment" back.  You are unwilling to sacrifice anything to improve the likely hood of SS being solvent in the future. 

You are "hopefully" planning on living long enough to draw what you put in?  If you do that then who is going to pay for all the people that collect more than they put in?  You are a typical liberal that wants someone else to pay for the ones that never take responsibility for themselves but are too near sighted to see beyond today.  We are a broke country that borrows 40% of every dollar spent so people like you with "substantial investments" need to pay more and take less instead of passing the buck to someone else.  Ryan's plan will at least attempt to make needed cuts instead of speeding the ship up as it approaches the iceberg. 

It is not a Ponzi scheme, it is easily fixable and your characterization of me is unfair and completely insulting. Since my daughter is still in college, I care very much about the next generation. Get rid of the cap on SS is a solution I am willing to subscribe to even though it would cost me personally thousands of dollars. In my state I voted against school vouchers even though it would have saved me thousands of dollars. I am not a selfish person and will sacrifice for the common good. For you to insinuate otherwise is a personal attack and on this thread that is something you need to be very careful about.

"easily fixable" with other peoples money, just like a said. 
Toofdoc
 
the government tit.  Your fix is a very selfish approach and you are asking me to pay more now for something I would still never receive any benefits from because it will still go broke. 

Exactly when did I sign up to secure everyone's retirement?  Taxing me more and require me to pay even more into SS is only preventing me to take care of myself. 

I hate you got ur wittle feewins hurt, but I thought someone that made the hee haw comment, called me a rube, said I was old,bitter, and intolerant, and thinks people that think differently than you are ignorant could handle the truth.

Do you not read what I post? Getting rid of the cap would cost my family thousands and yet you're telling me my fix is selfish.Collecting Social Security is not the government tit. As far as handling the truth is concerned, I haven't heard any truth from you to handle. And how would you know how much my wife and I have put into SS. I haven't put anything into SS in decades. My wife's job is very high paying so we are well over the cap. BTW the average salary for a dentist is 200,000 and you're bitching and moaning about this crap. As for hurting my feelings, there is no way you are capable of doing that, but when you challenge my honor my dander is up. I didn't say you were   old,bitter, and intolerant. I said you sounded old,bitter, and intolerant. As for a rube, you said yourself that you came from the sticks, southern colloquialism for the country, and raised yourself up all by your lonesome with no help from the gummit. Of course if you went to public schools that was government help along with a list too long for me to want list.

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FYI: When my wife and I decide to start drawing from SS we will receive about $35,000 a year plus whatever else our investments will afford us, which is substantial. So I don't think we will need any of the rest of YOU TO PROVIDE HELP. Hopefully, we will live long enough to draw what we put in.

  You're getting the $35,000 from Social Security and that was my point, you need the rest of us to pay into the ponzi scheme so you can cash out.  You don't care about the new workers just starting out even when you know they will never be able to get their "investment" back.  You are unwilling to sacrifice anything to improve the likely hood of SS being solvent in the future. 

You are "hopefully" planning on living long enough to draw what you put in?  If you do that then who is going to pay for all the people that collect more than they put in?  You are a typical liberal that wants someone else to pay for the ones that never take responsibility for themselves but are too near sighted to see beyond today.  We are a broke country that borrows 40% of every dollar spent so people like you with "substantial investments" need to pay more and take less instead of passing the buck to someone else.  Ryan's plan will at least attempt to make needed cuts instead of speeding the ship up as it approaches the iceberg. 

It is not a Ponzi scheme, it is easily fixable and your characterization of me is unfair and completely insulting. Since my daughter is still in college, I care very much about the next generation. Get rid of the cap on SS is a solution I am willing to subscribe to even though it would cost me personally thousands of dollars. In my state I voted against school vouchers even though it would have saved me thousands of dollars. I am not a selfish person and will sacrifice for the common good. For you to insinuate otherwise is a personal attack and on this thread that is something you need to be very careful about.

"easily fixable" with other peoples money, just like a said. 
Toofdoc
 
the government tit.  Your fix is a very selfish approach and you are asking me to pay more now for something I would still never receive any benefits from because it will still go broke. 

Exactly when did I sign up to secure everyone's retirement?  Taxing me more and require me to pay even more into SS is only preventing me to take care of myself. 

I hate you got ur wittle feewins hurt, but I thought someone that made the hee haw comment, called me a rube, said I was old,bitter, and intolerant, and thinks people that think differently than you are ignorant could handle the truth.

Do you not read what I post? Getting rid of the cap would cost my family thousands and yet you're telling me my fix is selfish.Collecting Social Security is not the government tit. As far as handling the truth is concerned, I haven't heard any truth from you to handle. And how would you know how much my wife and I have put into SS. I haven't put anything into SS in decades. My wife's job is very high paying so we are well over the cap. BTW the average salary for a dentist is 200,000 and you're bitching and moaning about this crap. As for hurting my feelings, there is no way you are capable of doing that, but when you challenge my honor my dander is up. I didn't say you were   old,bitter, and intolerant. I said you sounded old,bitter, and intolerant. As for a rube, you said yourself that you came from the sticks, southern colloquialism for the country, and raised yourself up all by your lonesome with no help from the gummit. Of course if you went to public schools that was government help along with a list too long for me to want list.

Get a job and help the economy, feed the hungry, build free housing and stop trying to make me do it.  You are not contributing to society's betterment and are either on disability or just chose not to work.  Instead of gambling(you do gamble right?) why don't you use the extra money you have to help people?  Stop gambling your wife's hard earned money away!

 

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FYI: When my wife and I decide to start drawing from SS we will receive about $35,000 a year plus whatever else our investments will afford us, which is substantial. So I don't think we will need any of the rest of YOU TO PROVIDE HELP. Hopefully, we will live long enough to draw what we put in.

  You're getting the $35,000 from Social Security and that was my point, you need the rest of us to pay into the ponzi scheme so you can cash out.  You don't care about the new workers just starting out even when you know they will never be able to get their "investment" back.  You are unwilling to sacrifice anything to improve the likely hood of SS being solvent in the future. 

You are "hopefully" planning on living long enough to draw what you put in?  If you do that then who is going to pay for all the people that collect more than they put in?  You are a typical liberal that wants someone else to pay for the ones that never take responsibility for themselves but are too near sighted to see beyond today.  We are a broke country that borrows 40% of every dollar spent so people like you with "substantial investments" need to pay more and take less instead of passing the buck to someone else.  Ryan's plan will at least attempt to make needed cuts instead of speeding the ship up as it approaches the iceberg. 

It is not a Ponzi scheme, it is easily fixable and your characterization of me is unfair and completely insulting. Since my daughter is still in college, I care very much about the next generation. Get rid of the cap on SS is a solution I am willing to subscribe to even though it would cost me personally thousands of dollars. In my state I voted against school vouchers even though it would have saved me thousands of dollars. I am not a selfish person and will sacrifice for the common good. For you to insinuate otherwise is a personal attack and on this thread that is something you need to be very careful about.

"easily fixable" with other peoples money, just like a said. 
Toofdoc
 
the government tit.  Your fix is a very selfish approach and you are asking me to pay more now for something I would still never receive any benefits from because it will still go broke. 

Exactly when did I sign up to secure everyone's retirement?  Taxing me more and require me to pay even more into SS is only preventing me to take care of myself. 

I hate you got ur wittle feewins hurt, but I thought someone that made the hee haw comment, called me a rube, said I was old,bitter, and intolerant, and thinks people that think differently than you are ignorant could handle the truth.

Do you not read what I post? Getting rid of the cap would cost my family thousands and yet you're telling me my fix is selfish.Collecting Social Security is not the government tit. As far as handling the truth is concerned, I haven't heard any truth from you to handle. And how would you know how much my wife and I have put into SS. I haven't put anything into SS in decades. My wife's job is very high paying so we are well over the cap. BTW the average salary for a dentist is 200,000 and you're bitching and moaning about this crap. As for hurting my feelings, there is no way you are capable of doing that, but when you challenge my honor my dander is up. I didn't say you were   old,bitter, and intolerant. I said you sounded old,bitter, and intolerant. As for a rube, you said yourself that you came from the sticks, southern colloquialism for the country, and raised yourself up all by your lonesome with no help from the gummit. Of course if you went to public schools that was government help along with a list too long for me to want list.

Get a job and help the economy, feed the hungry, build free housing and stop trying to make me do it.  You are not contributing to society's betterment and are either on disability or just chose not to work.  Instead of gambling(you do gamble right?) why don't you use the extra money you have to help people?  Stop gambling your wife's hard earned money away!

 

Out of respect for this thread, I will not be replying to anymore  comments addressed to me by toofdoc. There are too many other people with whom to debate. I'll not waste my precious time anymore with someone who knows nothing about me, yet insists on making personal remarks about me such as "Stop gambling your wife's hard earned money away!" and "Get a job and help the economy" and "You are not contributing to society's betterment" and finally " why don't you use the extra money you have to help people?". These are statements born from ignorance about who I am and what kind of person I am.  

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Paul Ryan is Sarah Palin with a penis and a better book collection.

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You really oughta work for the Obama campaign. You would fit right in with all the Chicago thugs.

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You really oughta work for the Obama campaign. You would fit right in with all the Chicago thugs.

The Chicago thugs versus the Salt Lake City thugs. what a match

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I've never heard of any Romney associates referred to as thugs but that's a common description of Obama's crew.

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