I have been out of the scene for a while, only posting when I really had something I found a lot of value in. I love handicapping golf, and this is the perfect event for me to come back and post on. I caddied at the Ocean Course in college and, therefore, I know this course like the back of my hand. I've played it and looped it probably over a hundred times. (In one summer that is a lot). This course is HARD for the uninitiated. Lots and lots of blind shots, which is why they started the caddy program. Back when I caddied it was only forecaddies, so basically all I did was ride on the back of the carts and tell people where to hit the ball and read greens. That is a necessity at the Ocean Course because it has that many blind shots. I have been told that Tiger, Rory and Adam Scott have played within the past week or two. But, more experience than that is required for me to feel comfortable backing a golfer. The 1991 Ryder Cup and the 1997 World Cup were both held at this venue, and you need only look back at those events to see what havoc this course can wreak on generally good golfers' games. The wind will be key. There can be 3-4 club winds on some holes due to its location which can be deduced from the name. There are holes that seem like they are literally on the ocean. The Legend of Bagger Vance was filmed there. You may recall the scene where Walter Hagan hit the ball actually off the beach sand. That hole is actually not a part of the Ocean Course. It was built specifically for the movie. Back when I caddied there it was still in existence and we used to play this 19th hole for lunch often. But, several of the other holes are right on the shoreline as well. Speaking of sand, there is a LOT of it, so good sand players will be something to look at in addition to good wind players. I will be posting throughout the week my thoughts on this event. I will be attending Friday and will be able to get a in person view of how the players are handling the wind and other challenges before weekend play. I look forward to a very profitable week for everyone next week.
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Great stuff Tara! Welcome back!! I'm looking forward to this event myself. The last major of the year but still plenty of golf season left. I just love everything about it! I've never been a caddie but I love to play, cap and one of my favorite sports to watch on TV. Glad to have you back. $BOL$
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Nice to hear from you Tara. Always nice to get your thoughts and it sounds like you will have some good ones!
Thanks djs and PS63!
great insight tara, do you happen to know what the green speed will be? or what it normally is? is it slower because its by the beach?
what about the rough?
thanks for the post, can't wait till next week, great looking golf course that im sure if the weather plays a factor looks like it can be real tough.
When I worked there it was still bermuda greens, and I'm assuming they still are. (I will be finding out for sure obviously). They tried to grow a few bent grass greens and they died due to the heat. I will try to find out from folks I still know there what the greens are running right now, but they can be very fast and I'm sure they have them in tip top shape for the tournament. The rough at all of the courses on Kiawah is typically very tough, especially around the bunkers and greens. Most of the time you would rather be in the bunker than right outside of one. But, one of the big issues at the Ocean Course is all of the sand. There are a lot of waste bunkers rather than rough. It almost looks like they just added a few green spots to the beach. They have decided to actually not have any bunkers this year as they have done in the past when tournaments are played here. You will be able to ground your club in any sandy area, including greenside bunkers, remove impediments, etc. This does not change the fact that you will have to be a good sand player though. If you can get through an entire round of play at the Ocean Course without hitting out of a sandy area, you are a freaking magician. This is a traditional links style golf course so European players who play well on courses in England and Scotland are folks to look at as well. (They also obviously are used to playing in windy conditions as well). Weather plays a factor just like it does anywhere. But, regardless of the forecast, I can promise you there will not be four days without wind. At least 1 or 2 days will be extremely windy, so do not forget to make sure you know how a player deals with those type of conditions.
As someone who just moved back home from Myrtle Beach and actually got to play Kiawah before I left, it is bermuda grass.
I figured. Thanks. How did you like it? Did you play any of the other courses while you were there?
And absolutely one of the hardest courses I have ever had the "pleasure" of playing. The breezes from the sea were quite demanding that day and it didn't help that I played more blind shots then ones where I could see the pin. I do not envy these golfers thats for sure. Its gonna look like the British Open and score like the US Open if the wind is gonna be like I think it is.
thanks for the insight. should be a great tournament.