I've been here for a few years now. I've seen several incidents and accusations over the years. None of which I cared to get involved in because I loved Pregame. I've been waiting over 24 hours now, and I have yet to hear a single acknowledgement from either handicapper, or the message I sent to JR, as to the disgusting losses and/or an explanation to the identical 5 play card from these 2 handicappers. I paid upwards of $40 for these 2 cards (Goodfella and Dave Essler). Recently, I had a long-term Goodfella subscription that expired this week and I was awaiting funds from 5dimes to arrive before I purchased another long-term sub.
I find this to be quite out of line and very unethical if it is in fact true that these plays were copied or shared. If they were not, I would appreciate a prompt and thorough explanation, if not, I would appreciate a refund.
UPDATE Sunday,
I see that both Goodfella and Dave Essler have the exact same cards again, all 5 plays. Yet we have not heard from either capper on twitter or here in the forums as they have always been so diligent to do.
Anyone can see what is going on here. The question is, does anyone care?
Last 10 Picks from Goodfella
-$210
Last 10 Picks from Dave Essler
-$315
That's been revised this afternoon. This was automatically posted right after the game started:
Dave Essler
Goodfella
I didn't buy the card(s) today but I did yesterday and I was at my computer as each play came into my email box, within one minute of each other. 8 plays 4 from one, 4 from the other, each matching play released within one minute of each other. I am a simple man, I do not posses a degree in engineering nor am I mechanically inclined. What I do know is when something deceptive is going on. I'm entitled to a little more for the money I spend at Pregame. I have spent over a thousand dollars at this site, in this year alone. I too understand the definition of the phrase "Long term".
Pregame, you may elect to delete this thread. It does not change what happened. I and your community are entitled to an explanation.
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shoot jd@pregame.com an email. he will help you. i've seen this a couple of times. it happens from time to time.
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Interesting
wow, b2b days, what are the odds?, hope they rectify the situation for you, especially being a LONG TERM client.
On an off topic note I liked your George Carlin reference about not possessing an engineering degree :)
I hope you get this figured out because those guys are both good cappers
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I appreciate the thread and bringing this to our attention. At the same time, I do not appreciate the accusations of "you can choose to ignore" or "you will delete this thread". Thread will not be deleted. I will contact each handicapper personally today and respond by this afternoon.
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Never heard of "Great Minds think a like"? I've been in the bookie joints plenty of times and and have bet the same thin as other guys i know in there, before even knowing what they were betting.......but 5 games defenitly makes these circumstances a lot more odd, but it can & will happen....by the way, what was thee performance of the 5 picks that they were both unanimously on?
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I'm sure this happens frequently because these cappers are real people and have real lives. With that being said, we as cappers know the massive amounts of time it takes to find the winners. I have no issue of "scratch my back, I scratch yours" when a capper doesn't have the time in a give. Day to put in the work. I can just about guarantee every single person who gambles has asked another for their plays for the day. On that note im sure there will be put forward ways to prevent this from happening in the future from the Pregame staff. Here is a simple suggestion maybe JD can take into consideration. Suggestion... Pregame is aware of the identical cards --- when person "x" purchases one of the identical packages, the other identical package is no longer available for person "x" to purchase.
the same was the other day with goodfella and shaker with a big total play on arizona game
While I respect the hell out of both these guys' abilities and I don't have a dog in this fight, if a paid 'capper doesn't have time to research the selections then there should be NO card for that day.....period. In good faith, people purchase these packages expecting the work to have been done by whomever they choose to purchase from.
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