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BK Professional Sports Betting 07/17 (TIP FROM THE BOOK)
Lloyd Christmas
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Griff

But they do t just "throw you out"....

Some do, some just limit to the point that it's not worth your time.  I've personally only been thrown out.  I guess they would feel stupid limiting a $100 bettor.

You want a handicapping tip?  Spend as much time getting a good number as you do researching games. Depositing/withdrawing/depositing/withdrawing is a bitch, but I guarantee you will lose less, or win more.  I can't guarantee that for any other piece of advice 

"There is no such thing as luck, just random fluctuations of probability"

Lloyd Christmas
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Griff

Lloyd just preached the truth b/c I've been victim to all of the above....,

This kind of allowed me to piggy back what I said in Stinky's weird ass thread.  This guy probably thinks I'm a dick now, but hopefully 100 people read this and don't make a mistake that will cost themselves money. 

You want a handicapping tip?  Spend as much time getting a good number as you do researching games. Depositing/withdrawing/depositing/withdrawing is a bitch, but I guarantee you will lose less, or win more.  I can't guarantee that for any other piece of advice 

"There is no such thing as luck, just random fluctuations of probability"

BK Professional Sports Betting
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Lloyd and Bruno...sorry I gave such a short answer last time... The value is on the Pirates +107 for the majority of people just checked the public is hitting this at 65-69%,  I should have said.

Lloyd you misunderstood me, you ask about the value in taking this move now? Yes your right the value was gone before most of us got up tis morning compared to -108, but I was trying to say is that it doesn't mean you let the play go..If the play wins then it had VALUE to me or anyone else who took Rockies at lets say -120..I hope now you understand what I failed last response in saying. I agree with everything you said your right just think you misunderstood me.

Now for me I simulated that game and have the Rockies with a + .9 differential and a 57.8% the play wins, so for me -120 there is value on the Rockies for me! I hope I cleared it up.



[edited by: BK Professional Sports Betting at 4:52 PM (GMT -7) on Tue, Jul 17 2012]

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Lloyd Christmas
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Well if you have a model that's one thing.  We've gone from a call from offshore, to strong numbers, to having a model.

As far as the play winning and having value, no, that is totally incorrect.  If you take that logic...

laying -110 on tails has value if tails wins

Red has value in roulette if it wins

Insurance has value in BJ is the dealer has a face card down



[edited by: Lloyd Christmas at 4:57 PM (GMT -7) on Tue, Jul 17 2012]

You want a handicapping tip?  Spend as much time getting a good number as you do researching games. Depositing/withdrawing/depositing/withdrawing is a bitch, but I guarantee you will lose less, or win more.  I can't guarantee that for any other piece of advice 

"There is no such thing as luck, just random fluctuations of probability"

BK Professional Sports Betting
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Lloyd seriously????

Ok getting deep... YOU ASK ME ABOUT VALUE...I sad FOR ME it has value based on my projections...I didn't post it with my projections or strong numbers in the original post, IT'S NOT MY PLAY... You ask the question about value I attempted to answer it..If you think I am a liar ( seems to be were you WANT to take this) then fine. I won't argue what the ORIGINAL POST STATED, I don't have toooo. Believe it or not that's fine I am OK with that.

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jzovas
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LLoyd, are you saying when sharp action moves the side from -108 to -118 lets say...

at -108 the 'sharp' side is on the favorite, however after the line moves to -118 the favorite is no longer the 'sharp' side?

Lloyd Christmas
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There are no such thing as "sharp" sides, there are only "sharp numbers".  If a football game gets steamed from +3.5 to +2.5, the dog is the sharp side, but only at the 3.5 number.  If there was still value in the +2.5, don't you think wiseguys would still be betting it?

You want a handicapping tip?  Spend as much time getting a good number as you do researching games. Depositing/withdrawing/depositing/withdrawing is a bitch, but I guarantee you will lose less, or win more.  I can't guarantee that for any other piece of advice 

"There is no such thing as luck, just random fluctuations of probability"

RTG
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Well said Lloyd. Sharp doesn't mean sh*t. It is all a crap shoot. A pitcher with a 10.75 ERA in the last 3 games doesn't mean that he will crap the bed. He will probably throw a gem. To me, it is situational for the most part, but still I look at the numbers. MLB is a b*tch



[edited by: RTG at 10:13 PM (GMT -7) on Tue, Jul 17 2012]

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Las Vegas Books are not allowed to "sell off" or "buy" from somewhere else.  This is a gaming regulation.  The only way they can adjust their handle on a game is to move the line to attract betting on the other side.

monsont
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Lloyd, first of all i have great respect for you but, I don't get your beef with this post....in reading back bk was merely stating the line move on a team that is not getting the majority of the action.  Pitts was at 65% of action yet line was moving the other way, which made it a sharp number.   He never said value....fade or follow, it's only an opinion!

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