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Bryan Leonard
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When analyzing baseball totals, weather can be even more important than stats and starting pitchers. Last baseball season saw terrible weather in the northeast, with many rain outs. One of those contests the Tigers and Red Sox played a game at Fenway where the weather was cold, drizzly and the wind was blowing in. Final score: 1-0. On the same night, a little further south, it was cool in Baltimore as the New York Yankees survived a very scary moment, a blown save by Mariano Rivera and staggered through 10 straight scoreless innings before pulling away to another victory over the Baltimore Orioles.
 Last week the light hitting Twins went to Chicago to play the White Sox, but their bats awoke in an 11-8 pounding. The difference? Warm weather in Chicago, 82 degrees, and the wind blowing out 17 MPH certainly helped the hitters and gave the pitchers fits. The Minnesota staff threw 163 pitches, the White Soc 175!
A few years ago a similar thing happened when the Red Sox and Yankees squared off again, with long pre-game festivities as the Sox received their World Series championship rings. It was significant because the previous time they had played a home opener as the defending champs was in April of 1919, also against the Yankees, by coincidence. What was lost in all the pomp and circumstance was the weather.
Sure, it was a nice April day in Fenway, but did you notice anything else about the weather? It was gusty. In fact, the wind was blowing in from center field between 10-16 miles per hour. Sports bettors pay extra attention to aspects like this. Those who place wagers on baseball games need to be part meteorologist and take an interest in what the weather conditions are. Notice that the Yankees/Red Sox game ended up sailing under the total in an 8-1 Boston win. It certainly helped the pitchers that the wind was blowing in, especially knuckeballer Tim Wakefield.
Oddsmakers usually do take into account weather conditions when making totals. There are times when a Wrigley Field total is 8-9 when the wind is blowing in or conditions are normal, and other times if the wind is blowing out you’ll see the total jump to 12, 13 or even 14. Wrigley is a small, hitter-friendly park and wind conditions in Chicago (the windy city) can play an important role in runs scored and the total. I used to go to Municipal Stadium in Cleveland and if the wind conditions were extreme with respect to the total, I wouldn’t hesitate to get a wager down on the total based on what I observed. We can’t attend every game to check the weather/wind conditions, of course, but you can utilize the Internet or various sports betting information web sites to find out wind conditions.
On the same day the Yankees and Red Sox played, the Rangers and Angels played in Texas with a total of 10. Yet, the wind conditions were gusty, 12-17 MPH this time blowing out to center and right. The Angels won 7-6 in a game that sailed over the total by the top of the 8th inning. It’s always nice to have a winning ticket in your hand even before the game is over! Checking weather conditions is a must for serious bettors, especially when playing totals.


[edited by: RJ_Bell at 8:57 AM (GMT -7) on Sun, May 27 2012]

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As the great Lee Corso would say... "Not so fast my friend" LOL. I know that weather is a factor when handicapping totals but I tend to overlook it alot and have done ok for the most part with them. Great example is the last 3 days.

3 Days ago I played an over in the Minnesota/ Detroit game and did not look at the wind at all. One of my followers came to my thread and asked if i was worried that the wind was blowing inb strongly and I said oops I miised that. Well the teams put up 19 runs and hit a bunch of HR's.

Now that got me thinking that I got lucky on that play and maybe I should look at the wind and weather a bit more closely. I wish I hadn't.

The Last 2 days there was strong winds blowing in at Texas and I played both games Under and both went way over, with a bunch of HR's hit. Texas even hit 3 in 1 inning yesterday. Now I didn't make the plays based soley in the wind as I felt there were other stats and good enough pitching on the mound to make the plays solid. Yesterday Henderson Alverez has been pitching very well and so had Colby Lewis. and Texas was averaging just about 4.4 rpg at home, while Toronto doesn't score well on the road and the game went over by the 6th inning.

Two nights ago Brandon Morrow came in with an 0.63 ERA on the road, vs a struggling texas offense and at that point Texas home games had gone 12-5-1 UNDER on the year. Boom 17 runs are scored with Texas putting up 14 runs vs a pitcher who was rolling.

I know three days is a small sample size, but over the years I have done very well by ignoring the wind opr weather most of the times, so I may be a little gun shy when taking a look at vthe wind, especially after the last few days. LOL.  Good stuff though Bryan and BOL to you as always.  

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IMO the key question about weather is whether the odds account for it.

Cubs totals can vary great based on the wind - so clearly just playing OVER when the wind is blowing out is not the answer.

When the weather is accounted for, I agree with Jeff Scott that it does not have to be deeply considered.

So the question is, Bryan . . . when most often is weather under-accounted for?

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I agree Bryan. Totals are tough to predict, but weather is definitely a factor. Mainly, wind, temperature, and humidity. If it is a relatively hot day, the humidity is low, and wind is gusting out, of course the baseball will carry much further. The reason being is that the air is thin and dry, and the wind is propelling the ball. This would be an opposite scenario if conditions were reversed, as the baseball flight would be hindered by the cool, dense air, and If the wind is blowing in, this would make it more difficult. It is just one of many factors to consider when handicapping Totals. Great point about the wind giving a knuckleballer an advantage if it is blowing towards them, as batters have a difficult time following the ball flight. Also, cold weather can affect performance of the players, as their body is trying to warm up. Blood is rushing to their core. This affects muscles and joints in their extremities, which could lead to inefficient batting and fielding errors. Of course if all conditions align correctly, it does influence my opinion on a Total. Great article Bryan



[edited by: RTG at 9:16 AM (GMT -7) on Sun, May 27 2012]

2012-2013 NBA: 42-21-1

2012-2013 NBA Totals: 4-1

 2011-2012 NBA: 282-233-9

2011-2012 NBA Totals: 148-110-4

2010-2011 NBA: 93-79-3

2010-2011 NBA Playoffs: 58-47-2

2013 MLB: 1-1

2012 MLB: 66-75-2

2012 MLB Totals: 11-12-2

2011 MLB: 251-205-18

2011 MLB Totals: 178-161-17

2011-2012 NFL: 95-74-2

2011-2012 NFL Totals 47-39-1

2011-2012 NFL MNF 8-6

2012-2013 NFL 8-12

2012-2013 NFL Totals 4-2

2011-2012 CFB 58-75-1

2011-2012 CFB Totals 34-30

2012-2013 CFB 27-24-0

2012-2013 CFB Totals 8-11

2011-2012 NHL 8-5-1

2011-2012 NHL Totals 4-2-1

2011-2012 CBB 200-178-7

2012-2013 CBB 31-21

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Great write-up of critical information for Baseball cappers...I also consider altitude (AZ,COL), humidity or lack of ... (SD, SF, SEA/TX, KC) , and roof dynamics (AZ, MIL, MIA, SEA) for overall ballpark RPG projections while checking daily wind and temp reports...

When most often is weather under-accounted for?

IMO books do not under-account a specific factor, but will make errors or react slowly to changing conditions.  Couple weeks ago a 5 Inn line on a Indians home game with D Lowe on the bump and the wind blowing in, it seemed the books didn't adjust to what seemed to me were definite Under conditions with a GB pitcher and hard wind in, knocking down what balls were hit in the air.

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While watching the Indians game at Chicago yesterday the announcers pointed out how well the ball was traveling. They also commented on today's game being projected to be much warmer. With two starters that haven't overwhelmed anyone with their strikeout ability we could see a high scoring contest once again.

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50 some degress in Oakland today.......Under?

SportWinsLossesTiesWin %$ Won
CBB1115042.31-550.00
CFB12033.33-120.00
MLB5359147.32267.00
NBA2420154.55195.00
NFL42166.67180.00
NHL0100.00-105.00
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Informative and stimulating capping discussion.  I echo RJ's sentiments in regards to the importance of knowing when and when not the opening odds have accounted for weather.  Line movement on the total doesn't even always tell the story as I have seen unders hit with 15 MPH winds blowing out in some places.   As RJ asked, anyone aware of when most often weather is unaccounted for or is it a case-by-case basis?

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Hey DMan. The humidity level is also high near 75%, and the wind is blowing over 10mph, but not sure of the direction. If blowing in, of course that would be a nice scenario, plus these pitchers have been performing well. Line has dropped to 7.5. Check out Marco's Betting First Look. You may have a good selection there.

2012-2013 NBA: 42-21-1

2012-2013 NBA Totals: 4-1

 2011-2012 NBA: 282-233-9

2011-2012 NBA Totals: 148-110-4

2010-2011 NBA: 93-79-3

2010-2011 NBA Playoffs: 58-47-2

2013 MLB: 1-1

2012 MLB: 66-75-2

2012 MLB Totals: 11-12-2

2011 MLB: 251-205-18

2011 MLB Totals: 178-161-17

2011-2012 NFL: 95-74-2

2011-2012 NFL Totals 47-39-1

2011-2012 NFL MNF 8-6

2012-2013 NFL 8-12

2012-2013 NFL Totals 4-2

2011-2012 CFB 58-75-1

2011-2012 CFB Totals 34-30

2012-2013 CFB 27-24-0

2012-2013 CFB Totals 8-11

2011-2012 NHL 8-5-1

2011-2012 NHL Totals 4-2-1

2011-2012 CBB 200-178-7

2012-2013 CBB 31-21

Overall record: 1136-995-39

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RTG

Hey DMan. The humidity level is also high near 75%, and the wind is blowing over 10mph, but not sure of the direction. If blowing in, of course that would be a nice scenario, plus these pitchers have been performing well. Line has dropped to 7.5. Check out Marco's Betting First Look. You may have a good selection there.

2-0....ez under

SportWinsLossesTiesWin %$ Won
CBB1115042.31-550.00
CFB12033.33-120.00
MLB5359147.32267.00
NBA2420154.55195.00
NFL42166.67180.00
NHL0100.00-105.00
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