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Red_Dog
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Are you freaking kidding me? 13-30 for the game, miss 5-6 in the last 20 seconds???  Laying 3 points and not cover like that. Tough one to stomach!



[edited by: Red_Dog at 4:53 PM (GMT -7) on Sat, May 5 2012]

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jepst14
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vegas got me on that game too... but got the under tho so evened out except juice. in the words of bkratz "while both teams will be motivated, the clippers wont cover cause they can't make free throws"

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LAC's Achilles Heel: Only Orlando was worse

30. ORL 65.4%

29. LAC 68.3%

When factoring in Missed Front-End's, LAC Blew +21 FTA

(1 Missed Front Ends Estimated as the Equiv. of Missing 1.44 FT's)

FT: Another undeniable weaknesses of Blake Griffin's Game (52.2% FT on Season) &

Another parallel to Karl Malone's Overall Game,

Malone as we know hovered near 55-60% for his first 2 Seasons

Before improving into the High 70's then 80's for the last Decade Plus of his Career

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Stevebeav

LAC's Achilles Heel: Only Orlando was worse

30. ORL 65.4%

29. LAC 68.3%

When factoring in Missed Front-End's, LAC Blew +21 FTA

(1 Missed Front Ends Estimated as the Equiv. of Missing 1.44 FT's)

FT: Another undeniable weaknesses of Blake Griffin's Game (52.2% FT on Season) &

Another parallel to Karl Malone's Overall Game,

Malone as we know hovered near 55-60% for his first 2 Seasons

Before improving into the High 70's then 80's for the last Decade Plus of his Career

Thanks for that info Steve. i always wondered what a front end miss equated to. 

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purks
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Stevebeav on the stats!

As far as FT goes, now I know why Chris Paul looks absolutely pissed off at his coach and teammates in the last minute of a game they'll actually win!!

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purks
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CP3 is working on a level higher than any Clipper ever right now and he resents it. He's already been the greatest Hornet in history and that got him to LA, at least.

IF they make it out of the first round they have San Antonio to deal with. Pop is dismantling the Jazz as we speak.

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Motivation is the key

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Thanks for that info Steve. 
i always wondered what a front end miss equated to.


Absolutely my pleasure...
Anything to engage anything/everything
Involving advanced statistics & their practical relevance to
Capping / Analysis of Hoops;
Invigorating thrill for a statistician/capper/analyst/coach

1 MISSED-FRONT END = 1.44 MISSED FT
Doesn’t tops any lists of
“eNBA | Stat-Geek Community” controversies & discussions,

Yet did spark very spirited banter
Amidst some of the who’s who of Advanced Stat Guru’s
(Dan Rosenbaum, Joe Treutlein & another Native Oregonian, Kevin Pelton)

Stat Geeks & Advanced statistician-based Coaches 
Were initially split down the middle on 1.44

THE Leading in authority of NBA Advanced Stats, 
(& former/fellow OregonLIVE Journalist/Contributor, John Hollinger -
whom - of course, developed PER*,
The NBA Player Personal Efficiency Rating Indexing Criteria)
Hollinger openly scoffed at the notion that any shot, missed or otherwise
Could have any superimposed inflated number affixed to it;

Yet after Mr Siena, 'KEN-POM' (Ken Pomeroy), 
Simply ran numbers & calculated 20+ Years of CBB-only Stats
Assigned a well-oiled, clocked 1.44 Number to The Missed Front End,
Hollinger, as well as John Gassaway & the CBB-wing of Basketball Prospectus Gaggle
Quickly followed, and the number began showing up in Hollinger's work as well

‘Debate list is seemingly endless: 
eStats for ‘Drawn Charges’ & 
Efficiencies based on % of shots blocked, ect,
(Hard to quantify - w/the specialization, perimeter vs. paint, ect)

In fact, all differing statistical criteria 
For the myriad of variations of PER*
(Player Rating Systems)
All under never-ending, justified critical review

ESPN’s John Hollinger himself has tweaked his PER* System 
To account for PACE | TEMPO Variations of 30 NBA Teams

Latest Raging issue is the Hoopsstats incorporation / calculations of 
“Most Improved” Rankings, into all sorts of Player Efficiency Rating Number Formulas

Not purposely name dropping (hand-to-God), 
Yet decades-long relationship w/KP compels me to chronicle this..

As a guy whom does a great deal of coaching,
I/we Stat-Guys owe a lot to Ken Pomeroy
Perhaps more than any other for
Sensational, innovative work he puts out on kenpom.com,

KP's Blog & Numbers were an Essential Template for coaches to evaluate 
Games & players; Opponents & trends; Weaknesses & strengths

ABOVE ALL ELSE, KEN POMEROY INOVATED WAYS FOR FOLKS TO 
EVALUATE &/OR TRIANGULATE LEVELS OF EFFICIENCY

Also, just my own jaded view that
Ken too often gets shafted, snubbed & (worst of all)
Disregarded as an innovator

When eNBA / Advanced Stat models & theory is discussed
Simply on the basis that KP ‘experimentation’
(in areas such as his ‘LUCK’ Ratings, ect)
Somehow Sophomoric | Outlandish

Just my few soapbox pennies for this fine Sunday

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Stay on that soapbox! Keep educating. Do you have any recommended reading materials? Again thanks Steve.

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