l999TL:

 The problem with that is, well, it would hurt sales.

Yeah but look at it this way.  It's honesty!  Honesty is the best policy!  I mean, think about it.....if your in a rut....yeah your sales will go down...but you know what.....that's more incentive for the Pro to turn his ship around.....that cut's out "some" (cause you know not all) of the bashing that would take place for a Pro who's on a cold streak.

Apathy spoke of Tout threads clogging up the forums........do you even know how much of a nuisance it was during college football when VR went on his cold streak.......there were pages and pages and pages of just nonsense jibberish just flooding the forums.  At the end of the year, VR was still holding the money. 

I will say this...if a handicapper hits like 59% of his plays during a given season he can make a pretty good chunk of change.  However, a good percentage of the betting public doesn't know that, so they see 59% and think "well damn I can do better than that so I'm not paying for that guy's picks". 

I keep saying this over and over again, but the best thing to do is to pick a capper that you like and get as long of a subscription/package as you can get.  It's pretty hard to make a decent profit when you only purchase daily selections while jumping from capper to capper trying to find one on a hot streak.

Well, if people are tired to see too many Pregame Pros Threads, why not having one forum section just for the Pregame Pros? If this can hinder sales, no problem.

They could promote their daily packages on their dedicated threads or topics but alll the other Pregame members would discuss the different boards on a daily basis, using only one thread/topic per game, so every bits and pieces of information related to that same game, would be gathered and available on that same topic/thread. There are a lot of european forums organized like this and people just look on the games they want. Pregame Pros would just participate and contribute on those game-dedicated threads like everyone else. This way, we can really see how much and how good is the quality content provided by each Pregame Pro.

A simple reorganization, a little bit of discipline and you can have real contributions, game per game, sport per sport. On college football and college basketball, you might want to use a more "concentrated/packaged" approach, were games are discussed week by week and perhaps, a division or conference weekly thread is the best option, but for NFL, one thread per game, every week, is definately the best option, the same can be applied to NBA or NHL.

Any member can say what they want or know about the game and so can do any Pregame Pro that knows something relevant to that game, even if he didn't end up with a play for that same game. I know this approach works very well, I've seen it by at least two years now in other european forums. I believe this would help drive the RJ Bell's dream a step further.

That and the Pregame handicappers long track record monitoring tool. Just my $0,02 cents.

Evan Altemus:

I will say this...if a handicapper hits like 59% of his plays during a given season he can make a pretty good chunk of change.  However, a good percentage of the betting public doesn't know that, so they see 59% and think "well damn I can do better than that so I'm not paying for that guy's picks". 

I keep saying this over and over again, but the best thing to do is to pick a capper that you like and get as long of a subscription/package as you can get.  It's pretty hard to make a decent profit when you only purchase daily selections while jumping from capper to capper trying to find one on a hot streak.

BINGO!!  100% agree with all of that.  "Streak chasers" will almost always lose.  It's a hell of a lot better to be there for win #1 of a winning streak than to sign up just in time to get the loss that ends the winning streak.  Following someone long-term is the only way to go if you want to win.

Dwayne Bryant:

Evan Altemus:

I will say this...if a handicapper hits like 59% of his plays during a given season he can make a pretty good chunk of change.  However, a good percentage of the betting public doesn't know that, so they see 59% and think "well damn I can do better than that so I'm not paying for that guy's picks". 

I keep saying this over and over again, but the best thing to do is to pick a capper that you like and get as long of a subscription/package as you can get.  It's pretty hard to make a decent profit when you only purchase daily selections while jumping from capper to capper trying to find one on a hot streak.

BINGO!!  100% agree with all of that.  "Streak chasers" will almost always lose.  It's a hell of a lot better to be there for win #1 of a winning streak than to sign up just in time to get the loss that ends the winning streak.  Following someone long-term is the only way to go if you want to win.

This is exactly my point.  Here we have 2 Pregame Pro's saying you have to be in it long term.  It's not so much that I think pregame should, "Practice what you Preach".......but I think it is more like "Show us what you preach". Show us what a capper can do long term in each sport, percentage wise and unit wise.

Evan, you have a point thinking maybe some Average Joe will look at 59% and think they can do better than that.  But when you have your "units won/lost" next to your percentage, that alone will say alot.  A capper hitting 59% and is up units for the year will most definitely open people's eyes. 

Most packages up for sale are advertised for "streak chasers".  But what about the few of us who could care less if your 14-1 L15.....how do I know you weren't 1-20 L21 before that???? 

I think most members here in the forums are a little "sharper" than the average bettor.  I think most of us know you DON'T have to hit 60% to make a substantial amount of money. 

So anyways, before "preaching" to Joe Public about how you have to follow a Pro Bettor long term to reap all benefits of "the edge", I think you must first "show" him the results of long term sports betting

I don't know how many other ways I can say this, but I guess I'll say it again: I have kept track of all my picks (since joining Pregame) on an Excel spreadsheet, which is available upon request.

Sermon over.  Amen.

rmarquez33:

Dwayne Bryant:

Evan Altemus:

I will say this...if a handicapper hits like 59% of his plays during a given season he can make a pretty good chunk of change.  However, a good percentage of the betting public doesn't know that, so they see 59% and think "well damn I can do better than that so I'm not paying for that guy's picks". 

I keep saying this over and over again, but the best thing to do is to pick a capper that you like and get as long of a subscription/package as you can get.  It's pretty hard to make a decent profit when you only purchase daily selections while jumping from capper to capper trying to find one on a hot streak.

BINGO!!  100% agree with all of that.  "Streak chasers" will almost always lose.  It's a hell of a lot better to be there for win #1 of a winning streak than to sign up just in time to get the loss that ends the winning streak.  Following someone long-term is the only way to go if you want to win.

This is exactly my point.  Here we have 2 Pregame Pro's saying you have to be in it long term.  It's not so much that I think pregame should, "Practice what you Preach".......but I think it is more like "Show us what you preach". Show us what a capper can do long term in each sport, percentage wise and unit wise.

Evan, you have a point thinking maybe some Average Joe will look at 59% and think they can do better than that.  But when you have your "units won/lost" next to your percentage, that alone will say alot.  A capper hitting 59% and is up units for the year will most definitely open people's eyes. 

Most packages up for sale are advertised for "streak chasers".  But what about the few of us who could care less if your 14-1 L15.....how do I know you weren't 1-20 L21 before that???? 

I think most members here in the forums are a little "sharper" than the average bettor.  I think most of us know you DON'T have to hit 60% to make a substantial amount of money. 

So anyways, before "preaching" to Joe Public about how you have to follow a Pro Bettor long term to reap all benefits of "the edge", I think you must first "show" him the results of long term sports betting

 

Great Thoughts M....I totally agree..

Dwayne Bryant:

I don't know how many other ways I can say this, but I guess I'll say it again: I have kept track of all my picks (since joining Pregame) on an Excel spreadsheet, which is available upon request.

Sermon over.  Amen.

Well at least you can exit the church, but did not hear this reply from other Pros with the exception of Evan.  Sorry if I left any others out; but certainly the majority of the Pros have not attended the same mass.

Evan Altemus:

I will say this...if a handicapper hits like 59% of his plays during a given season he can make a pretty good chunk of change.  However, a good percentage of the betting public doesn't know that, so they see 59% and think "well damn I can do better than that so I'm not paying for that guy's picks". 

I keep saying this over and over again, but the best thing to do is to pick a capper that you like and get as long of a subscription/package as you can get.  It's pretty hard to make a decent profit when you only purchase daily selections while jumping from capper to capper trying to find one on a hot streak.

I've been trying to tell people on forums this for years. When you just go around buying picks from guys that are on a winning streak you'll end up losing in the long run. First off for you to notice that they're on a winning streak means you have already missed a bunch of winners. Don't be in a hurry. Do your homework and find the long term winners with a track record. Then pick one of those and commit to them for a minimum of a full season in whatever sport your interested in. The problem is most young people want instant gratification and if they pay for picks expect to win every night.

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.....HAPPY 4TH GUYS WHO ARE STILL HERE!!!