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Who has the biggest coaching edge in the NBA playoffs?

by Matty O'Shea on 05/12/2008 10:12 AM

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Not only did I fall for the Kobe trap on Sunday, but I also might have over-valued Phil Jackson's coaching experience.  As a die-hard fan of the Chicago Bulls, I saw them come away with road splits time and time again en route to their six NBA championships and consider myself spoiled.  These Los Angeles Lakers are not those Chicago Bulls, and Kobe is not MJ.  What I have always considered to be the ultimate test for head coaches in the NBA is their ability to win championships with different teams.  Only Jackson has accomplished this feat of the remaining teams in the playoffs while Pat Riley had also done this a couple years ago with the Miami Heat.

I almost think you can throw San Antonio's Gregg Popovich into the mix because he has won four NBA titles, with the first and last coming eight years apart.  Popovich has long been considered a master of adjustments, and I think you have seen this strength come to the forefront the last couple games against the Hornets as the Spurs have tied up that series.  But who else is respectable enough to make a difference?

Some have argued that Boston's Doc Rivers is not good at making adjustments in a series, and he should take the blame for the Celtics failing to win a road game so far after going an NBA-best 31-10 away from home during the regular season.  I tend to agree and believe both he and Detroit's Flip Saunders would face a serious disadvantage against any of the coaches from the Western Conference.

Utah's Jerry Sloan and New Orleans' Byron Scott have both taken teams to the NBA Finals on multiple occasions, and the Pistons' lack of motivation during certain points since they won the NBA title under Larry Brown in 2004 can be traced to Saunders' inability to get the most out of his team every night. 

Still, even the great ones like Jackson - who is going for a record 10th NBA title - struggle to get through to their players at times.  I read something following Sunday's game where Jackson was upset that his players other than Kobe were just sitting around and watching Kobe in OT.  Isn't that the job of the coach to notice that and do something before it's too late?  Kobe was jacking up all kinds of bad shots when he was clearly hurting, and Jackson's job is to find other options.  Of course he was a bit limited since Pau Gasol and Derek Fisher both had five fouls heading into the extra session, but that's what a coach does.

Anyway, here are my coach rankings going into Game 4 of the Cavs/Celtics series tonight:

1. Phil Jackson, Lakers - his record speaks for itself
2. Gregg Popovich, Spurs - master of adjustments within a series
3. Byron Scott, Hornets - reigning NBA Coach of the Year could be the best motivator and player's coach
4. Jerry Sloan, Jazz - he has guided two very different teams to the Western Conference Finals over a 10-year period
5. Mike Brown, Cavs - very underrated coach in my opinion because he seems to get the most out of his players
6. Flip Saunders, Pistons - when he lights a fire under Pistons, they respond, but is it him or the players?
7. Doc Rivers, Celtics - coaching during the playoffs is much different than during the regular season
8. Stan Van Gundy, Magic - he was booted in favor of Riley a couple years ago and still can't maximize Howard's potential


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22 Comments:

 

posted by respectrayallen34 on 05/12/2008 12:45 PM

I agree with 1-5. I think that is the right order. At 6 i would put Stan Van Gundy. At 7 goes Flip Saunders and at the bottom is the immortal Doc Rivers, the man who has no clue what an adjustment is.

 

posted by Matty O'Shea on 05/12/2008 12:52 PM

Honestly, I think the bottom 3 are all about equal.  The reason I have Stan the man last is simply because I don't think he makes the proper adjustments and doesn't get the most out of his players.  Orlando is a very talented team and should be better.

 

posted by Nba » Who has the biggest coaching edge in the NBA playoffs? on 05/12/2008 12:53 PM

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posted by Matty O'Shea on 05/12/2008 7:58 PM

I think Doc Rivers goes down a notch tonight.

 

posted by respectrayallen34 on 05/12/2008 8:30 PM

Matty, if they get knocked out before the finals, Doc Rivers needs to be out. He needs to be out regardless, but Danny probably won't have the balls. Doc is horrible and that is no secret to anyone who follows the league. The offense is horrible. The defense is fine, which we all know he has absolutely nothing to do with. The offense is piss poor, they can't get a single decent shot. The Rotation has also been stupid

 

posted by Matty O'Shea on 05/12/2008 9:29 PM

Agreed buddy  - do you really think Ainge is the right man though?  I know he engineered a couple great deals last year to get Garnett and your boy, but it all starts at the top...

 

posted by respectrayallen34 on 05/12/2008 10:24 PM

Who knows. Ainge said he wanted to stock pile young talent until he could land a superstar and thats exactly what he did, only better. So its hard to question him, but im not sure he is the right man either. I do know that Doc is not the right man. I knew that before the year started, the regular season just went so well that it wasn't an issue. But the playoffs are when coaching becomes far more important than in the regular season. Its a chess game now and Doc still hasn't even learned to play checkers. Im astonished how bad the offense really is. I know the Cavs defense is bad but oh my. I remember the Sonics playing the Spurs in the playoffs a couple of years ago and they had no trouble running their offense because Nate McMillian is a great coach and he knew how to find the mismatch and exploit it. Thats why they were able to compete with the spurs dispite being a far less quality team. Coaching

 

posted by mrfreeze on 05/13/2008 5:25 AM

I think Flip Saunders is a great developmental coach,   he can get the best out of young players,  but the rap on him is that he can't win in the Playoffs.   One of the Timberwolves biggest mistakes (and there are many)  was firing Flip Saunders as coach.  The biggest mistake was probably hiring Kevin McHale in the first place, I don't have time to discuss that right now.

Phil Jackson is OVER-RATED  as a coach.   Why did he win all of those championships?   Michael Jordan & Scottie  Pippen   and Kobe Bryant & Shaquille O'Neal.    (plus a supporting cast)   If he doesn't have the talent in place,  he doesn't win.  He needs at least 2 superstars to win a Championship,  and he might do it this year, but I don't think it's his coaching ability that makes the difference.   What's that shit about him saying the Lakers let Kobe down?   Did he just say that so Kobe wouldn't?    I don't think that is good coaching,  it's basically saying that Kobe is the only one that matters,  and the rest of them are there because they needed to fill the roster.  

Phil Jackson is probably a good coach,  but I don't think he's a GREAT coach.

 

posted by Matty O'Shea on 05/13/2008 2:15 PM

Just saw this comment and had to respond.  Part of coaching obviously is getting the most out of your players, and Jackson does that better than anyone in the NBA, especially with role players.  You can argue that he needs at least two stars to win a championship, but what coach doesn't?  It's putting the right pieces around those stars that he excels at.  Why couldn't Shaq and Kobe not win a title without him?  Why couldn't Jordan and Pippen win a title without him?  I think he's a great coach.

 

posted by spartan on 05/13/2008 2:31 PM

Phil Jackson!! The guy wins titles and dates babes, not too damn bad.

 

posted by respectrayallen34 on 05/14/2008 12:19 AM

Yeah, honestly who doesn't need two stars to win a title? This is like the old Red Auerbach argument where he would say that Phil only won with loaded teams. This despite the fact that Red always had about 22 hall of famers on a team at one time.

 

posted by Matty O'Shea on 05/14/2008 10:26 AM

I think Sloan vs. Jackson is one of the best coaching matchups we could possibly have.  Don't think Jerry is falling for the "Kobe is hurt" theory going into Game 5 tonight.

 

posted by Are you betting against Popovich and the Spurs in Game 4 tonight? - Matty O'Shea on 05/27/2008 9:19 AM

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posted by Johnny Detroit on 05/27/2008 9:22 AM

None. I can't think of hardly any coaches in recent memory who have done anything without great players. Lakers were garbage until they got Gasol. Celtics the same. Think you can argue these coaches can be inner changed within teams and the results would remain the same.

 

posted by Matty O'Shea on 05/27/2008 9:25 AM

Popovich is the best right now - he does the best with the least.

 

posted by mrfreeze on 06/14/2008 4:38 AM

Matty-   Is Phil Jackson still the greatest coach of all time after his team fell apart on Thursday?

 

posted by Johnny Detroit on 06/14/2008 6:49 AM

Doc is way too low. The recent 3rd quarter surges show his players really respond to him at half time. That is what coaching is about. Making adjustments and have your players come out and play in the 3rd. The Lakers can vouch for that one.....

 

posted by Matty O'Shea on 06/14/2008 7:08 AM

Doc has certainly come a long way from going seven games against the Hawks to pulling within one game of a championship.  And yes, Phil can't be the greatest coach of all-time after his last two NBA Finals appearances...

 

posted by Johnny Detroit on 06/14/2008 7:55 AM

Not trying to fight ya again Matty :)

But has anyone looked at Phil's record without superstars. If I am not mistaken the Lakers were LONGSHOTS to reach the Finals prior to the trades.

I mean Matty, you have have coached those Bull's teams to the title. The main thing he did was install the "triangle offense" created by the coach from Kansas State. The players liked him, but outside of that have not read much about any great game plans or matchups he figured out to put a team over the top. I mean with Shaq/Kobe, Jordan/Pippen, don't you just sit and read the newspaper the whole game?

 

posted by Matty O'Shea on 06/14/2008 7:59 AM

His ability to manage egos should be commended.  How did the Bulls and Lakers do without him?  Is that coaching though or more baby sitting?  Lots of coaches have trouble with superstars, and his record speaks for itself.  However, he has been outcoached in the last two NBA Finals, which is why I'm definitely questioning him as the best "coach" ever.

 

posted by Johnny Detroit on 06/14/2008 8:04 AM

Reviewing his history though, you have to give him props. His regular season division finishes:

1st: 10

2nd: 5

3rd: 2

4th +: 0

9-1 in NBA Finals pending Celtics series. The one loss was with the star studded squad of Malone, Payton, Shaq, Kobe etc that was shocked by the Pistons 4-0.

Guess you have to give Phil his props.

 

posted by Matty O'Shea on 06/14/2008 8:18 AM

Definitely to a degree - that 2004 Lakers team though made me question whether or not he could handle so many egos.  I was living in LA at the time, and they were building that team up to be the greatest team ever.  You should have heard on sports radio there how they were saying that team would top the Bulls' record of 72 wins.  I could only laugh and then laughed some more when the Pistons whooped their asses in the Finals.

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