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Who do you plan to vote for President?

by Johnny Detroit on 06/24/2008 11:27 AM

Last night I was playing 2-5 at a friend's house and the topic of politics came up. After reviewing the options in my brain (from Obama to Barr (the Libertarian) I finally concluded my decision: NO ONE. Yes, Johnny Detroit is skipping the whole Presidential Vote. Granted, I will go to the voting booth to voice my opinion on other areas, but I think I will sit out the whole Obama vs. McCain fiasco.

First on Obama. Unless the guy has a week to prepare and write some amazing speech (which he can do), not sure how anyone when looking beneath the surface can back this guy. You think Bush looks like a bozo? Anyone watch the PA debates? With off the wall questions and Clinton going for broke on her attacks, Obama looked like a deer in the head lights. Totally clueless on how to answer anything that was not something he was prepped for. He has almost zero substance and has no business being a potential leader of the world (which the US President essentially is).

Now McCain. Since I make my living at Pregame, he automatically gets an X on the bad side due to his stance on internet gambling. Second, McCain went from the Republican who questioned Bush and his cronies to a guy that seemed to drink the kool aid to cater to the powers that be to get their backing come election time. I have the utmost respect for him based on his service in Vietnam. But at the same time, it seems he realizes he needs to fall into line if he expects to have a the Republican machine behind him.

Obviously, a guy like Bob Barr, the Libertarian has zero shot. I was a Ron Paul fan due to the fact he wanted to bring the government back a few notches in terms of how out of control it became. Actually, he wanted to bring it back ALOT, but we all know that would have never happened. Somewhere in between now and the American Revolution would have have sufficed for me. I thought Ron was good for the race because it made alot of people follow politics and care about what is going on. Barr on the other hand does not have the same appeal as Paul. So, I might put in a protest vote and tag Barr, but outside of that, nothing more.

There are other choices, but they have less of a shot than Bob Barr does. People always say it is your duty to vote. Well, I disagree. I think it is MORE American if you abstain from voting for someone because you feel the choices are not real choices. If you put in the time to research the candidates and understand their stance on issues and walk away with a disgusted look, why should you vote just to vote? If you put a pile of shit in front of me and a mound of snot, should I be forced to eat one of the two? Or, should I demand you get something on the table I can eat. Sorry, Obama and McCain are shit and snot.

So who and why do you plan to vote for? Keep the childish stuff out please when replying.


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313 Comments:

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 06/24/2008 10:09 AM

My 1st Presidential vote was Gerald Ford back in 1976 (He Lost to the Peanut Farmer from Georgia! LOL) I VOTE in EVERY Election & I've VOTED Republican ALMOST EVERY Time. Barack Obama is no more QUALIFIED to be President than Matty O'Shea! I've got some issues with John McCain, but I'll be Voting for the Lesser of Two Evils.....just like 2000 & 2004. IMO McCain has the Better Resume.

 

posted by QUEENY on 06/24/2008 10:14 AM

RON PAUL WAS MY CHOICE SO I'M WITH YOU.....

 

posted by ack59 on 06/24/2008 10:17 AM

McCain - Let Obama give us a 6 year term as a Senator and I might reconsider him next run.

 

posted by sawastea on 06/24/2008 10:21 AM

I took McCain at +500 a while back. I'm sticking with my guns and will vote for him...

 

posted by spartan on 06/24/2008 10:38 AM

I am going to vote for McCain but I have little enthusiasm about it. Neither candidate inspires me and frankly both scare the crap out of me to some degree. These are scary times to have a leader in place that you don't have confidence in. The thought of Obama dealing with all the middle east issues just makes me shake my head guys.

 

posted by Matty O'Shea on 06/24/2008 10:42 AM

Wow, Chucky - you're way off base there.  If you guys are seriously happy with the current state of the country and don't mind it getting worse, McCain is definitely the way to go.  I'm definitely not riding in that same boat with the rest of you and want to bring my kids into this world with a brighter future.

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 06/24/2008 10:50 AM

Matty,

          Good thing we Both like Sports, Betting on Sports & Drinking! (We're sure disagree about Politics!).........YOU think we're gonna have a "Brighter Future" with Obama? WTF! You'd better hold off on your plans to have a Family!!!!!

Go CUBS!

 

posted by Matty O'Shea on 06/24/2008 10:55 AM

Yes I do.  Anybody who voted for Bush the last two terms made a big mistake in my opinion.  If you don't feel that way, please feel free to tell me differently.  But there's no way in hell I would ever vote for McCain, who sad to say could be worse than him.  

Tell me your argument on how McCain will save the U.S. and explain to me everything Obama would do wrong to make America worse.  I'd love to hear it...

 

posted by i use 2 be a republican on 06/24/2008 11:02 AM

no more and need not say more

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 06/24/2008 11:09 AM

Al Gore or John Kerry? Dumb & Dumber? Tree Hugger & Liberal King?

Not saying Bush was the best.......bungled the War, Foreign Policy,etc.

Obama "Change we can Believe" NEVER HAPPEN!!!! Too many CONTROLLING Levels of Bueraucracy, Special Interest Groups,etc,etc,etc,etc.

McCain's not GONNA Save ANYTHING & IF YOU think Obama will? GET FU ing REAL!!!!! That shows how IGNORANT, FOOLISH, or IMMATURE you are!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go CUBS!

 

posted by Matty O'Shea on 06/24/2008 11:14 AM

I'm looking for better leadership Chucky and somebody who will work with Congress to make things better.  Sorry if you think I'm shooting for the stars here, but it's that simple for me.  McCain is an idiot in my opinion, and I would never want to risk putting the country in worse shape than it is now.

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 06/24/2008 11:24 AM

WE all agree we NEED better Leadership. WE all agree we NEED someone to make things better.

McCain's NOT an Idiot. NO ONE wants this Country (except Al Qaeda) to be in worst shape than it is now!!!

You sound like many of the young Voters who Voted for Jimmy Carter back in 1976. They wanted Change, They wanted this? They wanted that? They voted Jimmy Carter in.........WORST President EVER!!!!!!!

 

posted by Johnny Detroit on 06/24/2008 11:27 AM

Obama has not credentials or anything to be President. He made an amazing speech at the Democratic Convention a few years back and all of a sudden he is the savior of the country. Guy has no substance. Has he ever even held a job in the public sector? Or done anything outside of be a politcian who gives a great speech?

 

posted by Matty O'Shea on 06/24/2008 11:31 AM

I disagree - the guy who is in office right now will go down as the worst ever.  And I'm not willing to take the risk of an older, more senile guy replacing him.  Sorry Chucky, I'm not gonna argue this with you anymore.  I simply have more confidence that Obama will get us back on track with the help of a Democratic Congress.  He can't do it alone, and I'm not voting for a savior.  I'm voting for the better candidate, end of story.

 

posted by Matty O'Shea on 06/24/2008 11:35 AM

By the way JD - read Obama's bio on Wikipedia or do some more research without jumping to conclusions.  You and others might actually learn something about him.  Good move not voting though.  It's better not to vote than to vote in spite.

 

posted by deliveryman3 on 06/24/2008 11:53 AM

have not decided but leaning to Mccain....Obama talks about change , but IMO has not said how he is going to change things and also how he will do it, just says we need change....thats not enough IMO....give me some substance....of course he is the darling of the liberal media Democrat and black....I have no problem with a woman or minority if I feel they are the best choice.....Obama did not discredit the preacher until the press put pressure on.....he was ok with the guy for 20 yrs but all of sudden he had to distance himself(as he should) but should have done so long ago.....if I went to church and did not agree with the pastor I would not keep going for 20 years.

to many liberals think we need to change our ways so the world will like us....BS.....who changes for us?.....the terrorists will find a reason in thier demented minds to hate us no matter what we do.....we don't need to pacify them we need to obliterate them......I'm not speaking about all Arabs , just the ones who use Islam as reason to destory the USA....we cant let our guard down, if they can find a way to attack again u can be sure they will.....Obama says talk to the North Korean leader....Kim  Jong .....no way, just tell him the first time he sends a nuclear warhead toward US soil we will send every bomber we have loaded with warheads and NK will cease to exist when we are finished....You have to stand up to those who wish u harm and Obama and his liberal cronies dont have the guts to do it.

if you want conservative ways vote that way for Congress....President cant do much without the help of Congress......overall I don't think very highly of politicians anyway but thats our system so you have to make a choice or abstain which is also a choice.

You have to be rich to run for office so not many can enter the ring and thats why business as usual will continue in DC

 

posted by Tommy Rider on 06/24/2008 11:54 AM

I won't talk politics on here but my favorite post is when Sawastea somehow turned this into a gambling discussion by being a big enough degenerate to actually bet on who will become president. Classic.

 

posted by footballer on 06/24/2008 12:02 PM

NOT FOR OBAMA THE MUSLIM--"I'M A CHRISTIAN NOW" DON'T CARE FOR McCAIN, BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT OBAMA ELECTED, BETTER VOTE OTHERWISE. AT LEAST WE KNOW WHO MCCAIN IS!

 

posted by Matty O'Shea on 06/24/2008 12:06 PM

You're exactly the type of voter who hurts this country with your thinking.  This will be my last comment on this blog.  Great job everybody on selling me on why to vote McCain LOL

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 06/24/2008 12:40 PM

Matty,

          NOBODY on this Blog is trying to change your MIND on Voting for McCain.........I was ONCE IGNORANT,FOOLISH, & IMMATURE.......just like YOU!

PS- You said you wouldn't comment on here AGAIN!

 

posted by Tommy Rider on 06/24/2008 12:44 PM

I say he comments. lol

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 06/24/2008 12:53 PM

Matty,

          You're ALSO WRONG about footballer. WE need EVERYBODY'S VOTE( Even J.D's) And as for Bush being the "Worst President".......you need to take a REFRESHER course in American History!!!!!!!!!!

 

posted by xau on 06/24/2008 1:03 PM

If the majority of Pregame members are voting for McCain(anti-gambling) he probably wins unless the fix is in for Obama to be president. They want Schwarzenegger to be president in 2012. Is the needed constitutional change for the Barfinator to be president more likely with shit or snot in office?

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 06/24/2008 1:05 PM

Agree with delivereman3.....

1) That whole Pastor thing? PLEASE!!!!

2) NUKE KOREAN & IRAN!!!!

3) Business as USUAL.

 

posted by Stew on 06/24/2008 1:08 PM

I certainly wouldn't vote for a terrorist and a muslim, so I'm going with McCain. Also, Bush has done a good a job as anyone would have done in his spot.

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 06/24/2008 1:10 PM

IMO McCain's NOT really against Internet Gambling.( Isn't he really a Moderate?)

He's just saying that to appease the RIGHT WINGERS.

 

posted by H.R. Pufnstuf on 06/24/2008 1:24 PM

I didn't vote in the last election because I didn't like either Bush nor Kerry. This time I will be writing in Ron Paul.

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 06/24/2008 1:27 PM

Voting for Ron Paul....would be like pulling for the Bears to win the Super Bowl this year.....when they finish 5-11.

 

posted by Johnny Detroit on 06/24/2008 1:55 PM

Matty,

Wikipedia? lol.

Even reading Wikipedia, like I said, he has NEVER worked in the public sector. He lost early races in his own districts and won another election when the guy withdrew. The only thing I see is EXACTLY what I said. A great speaker. He did great at Harvard using the same exact thing. Sorry, we need a leader, not someone who can sound like one.

 

posted by deliveryman3 on 06/24/2008 2:44 PM

what I would like to see,now and during any election is debates but not with some hand picked moderator.....town hall style...let people at random ask questions and the candidates can answer........they don't see the questions ahead of time......at least 3 min to answer.....so they can state position and how they would achieve the goal etc. and do this at leat 4 x....north  ,midwest ,south and west locations

 

posted by mrfreeze on 06/24/2008 3:16 PM

Never had a job in the public sector?   His success has been gained by making inspiring speeches?   Sounds like a Kennedy.

I'll be voting for Obama.  And how can you compare him UNfavorably to Bush?   At least Obama can READ the speeches that are prepared for him.    And anyone who believes they chose the lesser of two evils  by voting Republican the last 2 elections is sadly mistaken.   What was evil about Gore?    Boring,  yes,   but not evil.   His wife is fucking nuts,  but that's irrelevant.    McCain should have gotten the republican nomination in 2000,  and he was shafted by the party.    In 2004,   Kerry was a terrible choice by the Democrats,  because they thought they could put anyone up and win easily.  They should have backed Wesley Clark then,  and we'd be in much better shape now.

    While I think McCain would have been a good choice 8 years ago,  I can't back him today,  not because of his age,  but because he's bowing down to the Republican juggernaut,  and his position on the war.    The McCain that worked with Democrats in Congress to make the nation a stronger, better place is not the same McCain that is running for President in 2008.  

    I don't know what it will take for us to get GOOD candidates to choose from.   The parties protect their base,  but the problem is that the base is too far to the left or right,  or that's what they believe,  therefore what they back.   Wouldn't most of us prefer a more moderate candidate,  who sincerely wants to improve our situation?    Religion,  Abortion and Gun Control should not be issues.    Economy, Environment and Diplomacy should be issues.

 

posted by Johnny Detroit on 06/24/2008 3:21 PM

no such thing as a town hall. even those are pre-planned.

 

posted by Floridachad on 06/24/2008 5:03 PM

I'm voting for Obama.

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 06/24/2008 7:34 PM

How about letting Matty, JD & I ask the Questions?

First Question for Obama.....

Senator Obama you went to Church for 20yrs & YOU didn't know YOUR Preacher was a RACIST?

 

posted by Johnny Detroit on 06/24/2008 7:46 PM

Chuck,

Didn't you know? Only white people can be racist.

I meant to say PRIVATE sector.

Before his speech in front of the Democratic Convention, who in the hell knew ANYTHING about this guy? Come on now....

On McCain and gambling he wants to ban any betting on college sports and also is against MMA. He has not voiced in on the overall online gambling debate really, but wanting to ban betting on college sports essentially is a non-gambling stance.

 

posted by deliveryman3 on 06/24/2008 7:59 PM

Agree mrfreeze we need more moderate choices  but each party wants credit for anything good that transpires and will do anything to snuff out another parties ideas even if they are good and better for the country as a whole. the dems dont want the repubs to get credit and vice versa. it does seem both parties are way left or way right but most Americans are middle of the road...u want some social programs to help people get on thier feet, fine but welfare turned into a free check  for generations(a way of life) and did nothing to help them better themselves, of course some people prefer a free ride and dont want to do anything even if they have to live in poverty...have couple friends who work on sect 8 houses (our tax dollars pay for thier house basically) and they trash it.  soem woman with 3 kids by 3 different men lives in it and has a boyfriend who sells drugs livin there on my tax $.

the sad thing is things are not going to change, term limits? who votes on it? our Congressmen and women and they r not going to let that happen..they will say they are for it but it never passes. we could lower our taxes if those Aholes in DC would quit wasting our money...It's not govt for the people bythe peolpe , its govt for business and lobbyists and to hell with joe blow in  Indiana trying to make a decnt living.

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 06/24/2008 8:11 PM

If Johnnie Cochran can use the Race Card( To get OJ Off) Why can't WE?

I would BET a "HELL OF A LOT"  of Senator McCain's Followers, Golf Playing Buddies, Country Clubers,Friends, Supporters, & VOTERS, etc.............Gamble on Sports!!!!!!!!

Do we really want the Goverment telling us we can't Gamble?

HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

posted by mrfreeze on 06/25/2008 5:08 AM

Wouldn't it be great if government only provided a few necessities,  and didn't have 90% bullshit?    Let them take care of transportation,   an adequate military  to protect us from any would-be attackers,  basic public schools, and a functional judicial system.   Sure,  there are several other things that government shouldh handle,   but billions of our dollars are being wasted,  not only on subsidies, foreign aid and "relief"  packages,  but on ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.   How many people are employed by the US government?   Didn't it cost something like $42 million just to send notices to people that they would be receiving a stimulus check?   Now you might argue that the creation of jobs is a good thing,  but I say that a job for the sake of a job,  at the expense of the taxpayers, is NOT a good thing.     "Creating Jobs"  is a myth and a waste of money,  what needs to be done is to create the workers to fill the needs that already exist,  so they may contribute something of value to the world.     If you eliminate farm subsidies,  the price of milk,  corn, eggs, wheat, etc.  goes up,  (as it is anyway due to fuel costs)  but wouldn't those increases be offset by the amount of taxes that we are no longer paying for the subsidies?    One of the main problems of government is that we are paying for all this shit we don't need,  and in most cases, don't want.      I may be an idealist,  but I believe that a person should work for anything they get,  and they should be compensated according to their contribution.   If they work harder, more efficiently,  or provide some medical or technological breakthrough,  they should be rewarded appropriately.    If they are lazy,  do not work,  do poor quality work or are just plain inept,   their paycheck should reflect as much.        As long as you give people handouts,  there will be people lining up to accept them,  rather than doing what it takes to support themselves.

    I got off on a bit of a tangent there,  but the point is that LESS government is BETTER government.

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 06/25/2008 6:24 AM

The Republican Platform has ALWAYS been for LESS Government. mrfreeze ever think about running?

 

posted by Johnny Detroit on 06/25/2008 6:58 AM

Chuck,

I am was a Republican until George's 2nd term. What you just said is not true. Bush and his current list of cronies have spent more on programs and pet projects than a liberal could in his/her greatest wet dream. Even Greenspan, who is an Ayn Rand follower, said the last good Republican President was Clinton.

The Republicans have not been about fiscal responsibility since Newt left.

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 06/25/2008 7:17 AM

JD,

       You're RIGHT. I said the Republican Platform HAS BEEN (In the Past)for less government. The Bush Administration & the Democratic Senate & House have HOCKED America!

And Matty thinks Obama can get us out of the SHIT we're in?

RIGHT? NOT!!!!!!!!!

McCain can't either!

 

posted by Johnny Detroit on 06/25/2008 7:24 AM

My dream candidate would be Newt. Fiscally, eonomically AND evironmentally responsible. Not many people can say all three.

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 06/25/2008 7:35 AM

If Obama wins. Look for Newt Gingrich to make a RUN in 2012. What about those 84 ethics charges when he was Speaker?

 

posted by ONE VERY HAPPY DEMOCRAT on 06/25/2008 8:11 AM

NAME SAYS IT ALL

 

posted by HVACDAWG on 06/25/2008 8:22 AM

A BETTER QUESTION IS " WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO VOTE THIS TIME"??   I DON'T LIKE EITHER ONE. cain is feeble minded and has bush written all over him.  obama speaks for himself.  no experience at all. plus he's black , and his religion i don't care for,

 

posted by HVACDAWG on 06/25/2008 8:33 AM

don't matter. it's already fixed. mccain will win. out of the two of them , mccain should be in a rest home.....

 

posted by deliveryman3 on 06/25/2008 8:39 AM

Bernie Goldbergs book....Crazies to the left ...wimps to the right is  a good read ....Dem or Repub should read it

 

posted by ONE VERY HAPPY DEMOCRAT on 06/25/2008 10:18 AM

 

posted by GObama on 06/25/2008 9:42 PM

GObama

 

posted by Rob Crowne on 06/29/2008 11:19 PM

CHUCK O'LUCK WROTE:

"Barack Obama is no more QUALIFIED to be President than Matty O'Shea! I've got some issues with John McCain, but I'll be Voting for the Lesser of Two Evils.....just like 2000 & 2004. IMO McCain has the Better Resume."

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Actually I was going to vote for the evil of two lessers, until Chuck convinced me otherwise right here in these Comments.  Here's the story of how I was born again thanks to an epiphany brought about by Chuck O'luck.  

I agree that Barrack Obama is not qualified to be President.   No large corporation would hire him to be CEO because he lacks administrative experience.  So how could I ever hire him to be the President of the United States?  

But then again, the same thing goes for John McCain.  He has never been anything but a politician., and no large corporation would hire him to be CEO based on his administrative experience either.  

Both candidates have made some incredibly stupid decisions.  

O'bama failed to renounce and repudiate his moronic pastor, Rev. Wrong, for almost a week.    

McCain. however, has failed to renounce and repudiate President Wimpy and his failed policies at all.

O'bama may have not spoken up before but he now declares that he he disagrees with Rev. Wrong's statements and policies.

McCain used to speak up against Bush's failed policies, but he now declares that he fully agrees and will continue all those actions and policies.  

Obama has proven how pussified he is by letting that dumbbell he married shoot her mouth off.  If he gets to be President he'll have to find a way  to muzzle that dopey bitch before her mouth gets the country in more trouble that it's in already.  I'm not sure he can do that.  If Obama gets elected, we will likely have to listen to the mouths and watch the war dances of Rev. Wright and Michelle Obama endlessly for four years.  If he loses, they will thankfully go back to being nobody.

McCain has proven for the past 8 years that he doesn't have a clue.  To say McCain is not anti-gsambling and anti sports betting is wishful thinking and simply wrong.  How could I ever vote for guy who,  while the country was at war, while terrorists blew up buildings, while the economy was going down the drain, while the dollar was dwindling, while Bush was spending the country into oblivion and while unregulated financial institutions were creating a disaster in housing and the mortgage market, joined bis buddy Sen Kyle in treating regulation of internet gambling as the most important issue facing the American public today.  If that doesn't indicate a lack of understanding of America's problems, I don't know what does.  Taking a page from Nero's book, McCain spent the majority of his Senatorial efforts fiddling with the wording of the numerous versions of his anti-gambling bill while the World Trade Center burned.  

Then again, maybe that's not so bad.  After all, he could have spent his time holding hearings on whether baseball pitchers and WWF Wrestlers take steroids.  

Perhaps somebody can name a bill that McCain repeatedly sought to push through Congress as many times as he kept trying to push through his anti-gambling bill along with Sen Kyle.  It was a bill that sought to make all of us federal criminals for placing a bet.  

Is that what Republicans stand for now -- paternalistic Government control of the individual?

O'bama introduced legislation to end extreme Global Poverty.  That would be accomplished by spending an additional $825 B in foreign aid.  Personally, I think someone ought to be spending $825 B here in the U.S. of A to end extreme U. S. Poverty and even mild U.S. Poverty, or maybe just to increase unemployment benefits, or shore up social security so it can continue for those under 30,  or even just put  a dent in the humongous deficit that Pres Bushleague has turned the Clinton surplus into, all long before we start ending poverty elsewhere.  

McCain, however, advocates destroying the American economy even further than Bush and thereby creating MORE American Poverty by sending $825 Trillion overseas to support our absurd foray into Iraq forever.  

I too used to like Ron Paul.  That is before he appeared on Meet The Press and could not intelligently answer a single question posed to him by Tim Russert.   Paul was all full of platitudes and rhetoric about what he intended to do, but  couldn't answer a single question about how he would accomplish any of it.  

I really wanted the guy to have some plan for implementing his great-sounding proposals.  He had none.  My heart sank.. I couldn't stand the thought of yet another stupid President.  

When it was over Ron Paul had made Georgie Dubya look like Albert Einstein in comparison.

So there I was, trying to figure out the evil of two lessers when thanks to Chuck I had my epiphany and was born again..  

Chuck opened the commentary here by declaring that Barrack Obama was no more qualified to be President than Matty O'Shea. The thought struck me like a lightening bolt! -- Why isn't Matty O'Shea qualified?  No fundamental reason I could think of.  

What exactly was that analogy all about?  Was Chuck trying to clue us in from left field that just like Matty O'Shea, O'bama WAS qualified?   After all, O'Luck, O'Bama and O'Shea are all Irish.  Maybe this was some sort of reverse Irish tradition, like saying "Break a leg" in theater culture.  Irishmen would certainly want to stick together, I reasoned.

I couldn't imagine a good Irishman named O'Luck favoring some some Scotsman named McCain over another Irishman named O'Bama..

So obviously O'Luck wanted us to vote for his o'brother O'Bama.  It was the new Story of O (Has anybody here read the old Story of O?  Ladies first please.)

I still couldn't see my way clear to voting for O'Bama though.   But then I said to myself:  

Self, what  a brilliant idea that O'Luck guy has.  Why not vote for Matty O'Shea for President?  

Matty is young, good-looking, obviously intelligent, well-written and well-spoken, and unlike most of the people who posted commentaries here, and most Americans for that matter, Matty has demonstrated the ability to actually do some research and fact-finding about that which he speaks, rather than simply spouting rumor off the top of his head or nonsense that he pulled out of his ass.  It doesn't matter what side he is on, what matters is that he has an intelligent and well-researched opinion.

I respected Bill Buckley's very intelligent and reasoned opinions on the conservative side, and I respect Al Gore's very intelligent and reasoned opinions on the liberal side. The point is the knowledge, intelligence and reason demonstrated in the arguments.  Either man would run the country well, despite the difference in political ideals.  

The problem with George Bush isn't that he's Republican.  The problem with George Bush is that he's stupid and a failure.  The man ran two oil companies, both funded by the Saudis.  Both companies went belly up.  So what did many of you posting here do?  You voted for him to run the country.  What happened?  The country is now ranked only 9th in te world in standard of living, and is on the verge of being belly up.  What a surprise.  Could you have known in advance?  Of course you could have.  The politics don't matter.  Gore was intelligent, Bush was a moron.  Gore was successful. Bush was serial failure.  Which one would you want to manage your investments?  That's the guy you should have voted for as President.

Gore would have been dealing with a Republican Congress, so not much would have been different, except perhaps heeding the warnings before 9/11. not sitting dumbfounded for 7 minutes when told the country was under attack, and maybe finding Osama Bin Laden instead of spending TRILLIONS (yes, Trillions) of dollars on killing Saddam Hussein because "he tried to assassinate my daddy.."  

Does anyone else think that just maybe the pass we've been giving Osama has something to do with Dubya's close personal and financial ties to the Bin Laden family in Saudi Arabia?  Okay, I know, that's just paranoid conspiracy theory.  The real reason that Bush hasn't been able to catch Bin Laden for 7 years is not that Wimpy has been giving Osama a pass,  but rather that Bin Laden is simply  much smarter than Bush.  Criminals on the lamb take note.  

Some of you, like Stew, still don't even understand what's wrong.  Stew writes:

"I certainly wouldn't vote for a terrorist and a muslim, so I'm going with McCain. Also, Bush has done a good a job as anyone would have done in his spot.

Really Stew?  I've been wondering who those 1 out of 5 people who think Bush is doing a fine job might be.  Now I've finally found one.  I guess you think that the fact that the stock market is in the tank, the economy in a recession and the housing market is in a depression has nothing to do with Bush's policies on bank and lender regulation.  Maybe you believe that the weakness in the dollar has nothing to do with the huge deficits the man has created.  Perhaps you believe that the fact that the world has changed from sympathy and support in our fight against Al Queda to hatred for our actions in the world has nothing to do with Bush's foreign policy mistakes.  Maybe you believe that the reason Osama Bin Laden is still thumbing his nose at us 7 years after he attacked this country has nothing to do with how your President allocated our military resources.  If you do, then I suggest you invest your life savings in any Wmpy post-presidential venture.  I'm sure George's excellent judgment will keep that investment safe and earning for you well into the future -- or maybe not.  

Of course, Stew, if you just happen to think, like 80% of your fellow Americans, that Georgie, Jr  just maybe didn't do the    

very best job possible, then by definition somebody else could have done a better job.

By the way, Stew, Obama's religion is no more Muslim than his heritage is Irish.  I made the reference to his being Irish above,  just to show, in a humorous way, how silly incorrect statements of fact based on misinterpretation of a name can sound.. Obama never was Muslim.   I would have thought that, if nothing else, the Rev. Wright fiasco would have corrected those thoughts.  How exactly do you reconcile the fact that Obama was a member of Rev Wright's church for 20 years with your statement that he is   muslim?  He didn't convert either, as another poster intimated.    

The name Barack Obama is African -- not Irish and not Muslim.  Obama's father was a black man from Kenya and his mother was a white Methodist from Kansas.  His father's name was Barrack Obama and Barrack Obama used to be junior until he father died.  Barrack Obama's mother and father separated when he was a baby.  When Barrack, Jr. was just 2 his parents divorced and his father returned to Kenya.  Barrack Jr never saw his father again.  .  Barrack, Jr.  was raised by his white Methodist mother.  He is highly unlikely to be someone who discriminates against whites since his mother and all the relatives he knew on his mother's side were white.  He never even saw his black relatives until 1988 when he was 27 years old.

But I am not here to discuss Barack Obama or his Obamamama (sorry I couldn't resist -- the devil made me do it).   I'm here to discuss the person I am going to suggest that we all seek to get on the ballot, and if not to write in, and that is,. Chuck O'Luck's candidate for President, none other than MATTY O'SHEA!.  

Let's look at Matty's qualifications.

Matty O'Shea has demonstrated the ability to express himself clearly and cogently, and to engage in reasoned debate without lapsing into name-calling.  

Matty may not have any administrative experience, but his lack is no greater than that of the other two candidates.

Matty seems confident that he has the bigger dick and doesn't seem to need to prove it by threatening the world.  Speaking of dicks, most important of all, unlike Pres Wimpy and Sen John "No Gambling" McCain, Matty knows when to pull out (perhaps as a result of his many years of practice using the rhythm method.)  Matty may or may not have any rhythm (we all know white guys got no rhythm) but it is obvious Matty has learned to pull out like a pro.

As an example of Matty's proficiency at pulling out,  Matty  refused to get get into a dick waving contest in this Commentary thread, and pulled out of it at the exactly perfect point.  That bodes well for his ability to be smart enough to stop the dick waving and pull out of Iraq with equally perfect timing.  

Matty is, I believe, too young to be President under the current Constitution, but that's no problem.  If we are willing to consider amending the Constitution so we make a President out of some Austrian body builder with Nazi ties who modeled for gay porn publications and whose answer to being accused of tittie grabbing females as he passed them was, "I don't remember molesting her but it sounds like something I'd do," then we can certainly change the required Presidential age for clean-cut Matty O'Shea, who has never even met a Nazi and always asks permission before grabbing tittie.

A $10 campaign contribution gets your choice of bumper stickers:  Please note your choice below when donating

ALL THE WAY WITH MATTY O'SHEA

HEY HEY WHADDA YA SAY?  LET'S ELECT MATTY O'SHEA.

VOTE O'SHEA TO SAVE THE DAY

TIPECANOE AND O'SHEA TOO.

OSHEA CAN YOU SEE BY THE DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT.

And once again,  a heartfelt thank you to Chuck O'Luck for showing me the dawning light of Matty O'Shea and causing me to be politically born again.  

 

posted by mrfreeze on 06/30/2008 5:38 AM

    I pretty much agree with Rob,  except for the part about the rest of us being idiots,  I resent that.    

    The most important point,  in my opinion,  is Bush's stupidity.   What you may not know, and may or may not surprise you,  is that it was exactly that stupidity that won the election for him.   Why did the Republicans nominate him?  Name Recognition?  Yes,  but that's not all.   Because they thought they could control him.  After all, he is pretty much like a ventriloquist's doll..  only those dolls sound a lot smarter when they talk.      Now,  why did the public vote for him?      He got the redneck vote,  because they felt he was "One of us".    Stupid people resent and distrust anyone with above average intelligence,  and that trait worked in Bush's favor.      Also,   the religious vote was a huge factor,  and while this statement will certainly offend many people here,   that too goes back to the "stupid people".   You see,  the God Fearing churchgoers were convinced by their churches, who were in turn convinced by the "Christian Leadership",  that  Democrats are evil  baby-killers.    They used the Abortion issue  as they seem to always do during election time,  though it's really not an issue at all and nothing ever changes with it after the election,   and it was the religious vote that won the last election for Bush.    It seems they are okay with killing adults (including U.S. military personnel)  in the middle east,  but it's absolutely unthinkable for a woman to terminate a pregnancy,  no matter what the circumstances may be.    

    I did not vote for Bush in 2000 or 2004,  because I knew a thing or two about his past,  and his total lack of qualification to do ANY job,   much less lead what had been  the most powerful country in the world.      

    Matty,  if you need a running mate,   I'll make myself available.  

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 06/30/2008 6:39 AM

Matty O'Shea & MR.Freeze........The Perfect Ticket!!!!

 

posted by Floridachad on 06/30/2008 11:59 AM

Funny stuff Rob, quite an enjoyable read.

 

posted by ealgleboy on 06/30/2008 7:06 PM

GOP   (GRAND OIL PARTY)

 

posted by one happy democrat on 06/30/2008 8:57 PM

the last 8 years, will never forget the lies.

 

posted by Rob Crowne on 07/01/2008 5:53 AM

MrFreeze wrote:

"I pretty much agree with Rob,  except for the part about the rest of us being idiots,  I resent that."

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Aw, stop resenting.  I love you.  I didn't say "the rest of you are idiots."  Here's what I said:

". . .unlike MOST of the people who posted commentaries here, and MOST Americans for that matter, Matty has demonstrated the ability to actually do some research and fact-finding about that which he speaks, rather than simply spouting rumor off the top of his head or nonsense that he pulled out of his ass."

Disagree?  Look at the posts here again.

I didn't say all of you, I said "most."  Also I didn't say anybody was an idiot, I merely said they did not demonstrate the ability to do research and fact-finding while Matty did.  

As for most Americans, its amazing the country isn't much worse off as a result of the of the lack of knowledge and reasoned judgment that the majority of voters exhibit.  

This week a survey indicated that the majority of US voters, when asked by multiple choice to pick the head of the Federal Reserve Bank, chose Alan Greenspan.  When asked to identify Ben Bernanke,  the majority said they never heard of him.  The value of their houses are dropping, the level of foreclosures is huge, credit has dried up, interest rates have dropped, and with all those things directly affecting them, the majority in the US voters read newspapers with stories about the lack of panties on starlets and don't have a clue about anything else.   The National Enquirer has the largest readership of any newsprint publication in the country.   Ask the the average American the name of the last baby to be born as a result of space alien sex with a housewife, or whether Lindsay Lohan has a shaved puss,  and they'll be able to tell you right off the top of their heads.  Unless of course they are under the age of 25, in which case they have ceased reading at all, but can name every Avatar in their favorite virtual world.  With any luck that crew will stick to their virtual voting booths and cast Linden votes only

Hey, don't get me wrong, I like to masturbate when they close that voting booth curtain just as much as the next guy, but at least I know the names and some facts about the candidates before I shoot all over them.

Anyway, anybody who thinks I was talking about them by using the word "most", I probably was, and anyone who thinks I couldn't have been including them in the word "most", I probably wasn't.  

Let me revise my statement to make it more accurate:

It should now read:

". . . unlike most of the posters here, except MrFreeze, Matty O'Shea and anyone who knows I couldn't have been talking about them . . . .  "

So, MrFreeze, stop resenting and start running.  i've made up some new bumper stickers.  Get your orders in before they run out.   Buy the whole set.  They are sure to become collector's items.  Note your choices below:

ELECT MATTY O'SHEA AND MRFREEZE.   THEY'LL WIN IN  A PARLAY.  THEY'RE A LOCK IN A TEASE.

MATTY O'SHEA AND MRFREEZE WILL PUT IN EACH POT A GAGGLE OF GEESE

O'SHEA & FREEZE ARE SURE TO PLEASE

OBAMA MAKE YOU SNEEZE? -- MCAIN MAKE YOU WHEEZE? -- TO CURE WHAT AILS YA VOTE O'SHEA & FREEZE.

O'SHEA & FREEZE WILL FUFILL YOUR NEEDS

MATTY O'SHEA & MRFREEZE -- BY THE SCRUFF OF HIS NECK OSAMA THEY'LL SEIZE

O'SHEA & FREEZE GOOD AS HONEY FROM BEES  

MATTY O'SHEA & MRFREEZE WILL MAKE OSAMA BIN LADEN MIND HIS Q's & P's.  

MATTY O'SHEA & MRFREEZE A TREAT AS TASTY AS PIECES FROM REESE.  

HIGH GAS AND LOW HOUSE PRICES DISTURBING YOUR ZZZZ's?  CURE THAT INSOMINIA WITH O'SHEA & FREEZE.

VOTE O'SHEA & MRFREEZE IF THE SKIDS OF OBAMACAIN YOU'D LIKE TO GREASE.  (They can't all be gems)  

 

posted by Johnny Detroit on 07/01/2008 6:15 AM

Matty O'Shea the next JFK??????

Great stuff Rob. The only thing is McCain HAS spouted off against Dubya. The problem I have is that he has backed down from doing so once he realized that to win he needed the Republican Powers That Be behind him. Prior to this, that is the reason people like Coulter, etc could not stand him. To his credit McCain was the moderate Republican who did not bow down to Emperor George. Not sure where that guy went.

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 07/01/2008 6:17 AM

Sounds like you've been working on their Campaign Slogans!!!

 

posted by Chuck O'Luck on 07/01/2008 6:30 AM

May I add a Few More......

I like O'Shea, My Bike Likes O'Shea!

Give'em HELL O'Shea!

In your HEART, You know O'Shea's RIGHT!

Pour It on'em O'Shea!

Tippecanoe & O'Shea, Too!

 

posted by one very happy democrat on 07/01/2008 9:41 AM