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39 Refs: NBA RoundUp for 1/20

by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 12:40 AM
Tuesday's outrageously small card of mostly uninteresting match-ups left us with poor value. We liked the dogs and we liked the Overs, but in the end, no matter how things turned out, I think we made the right choice by going light and waiting for this mega NBA Wednesday to really lay it out there.

What did we learn from yesterday? Well...we learned that Miami remains one of the biggest hit-or-miss teams in the League, and that Toronto is good enough to hang with the Cavs until the last few minutes. I like what this Raptor team is becoming, and that's the perfect time to fade them, because others are catching on, too, and the oddsmakers' power rankings are about to adjust.

Sports Wagering

Heat @ Bobcats - This line is OFF. Tough spot for Miami. The Heat beat up on the Pacers at home last night, and with that easy, cruising victory under their belts, they have to take on one of the hottest teams in the NBA. Charlotte is on a long homestand at the moment, they've won all 5 games on it so far, and after this one, the Bobcats head out on the road for a big game in Atlanta. Still, I don't think this is a look-ahead spot, not with the type of adrenaline Charlotte seems to get at home. I am concerned a bit with how Charlotte played in that second half against the Kings. They got out to a big lead then really took their foot off the gas, finally eking out a narrow victory against one of the League's poorer road teams. I doubt that the lackluster effort carries over into this one, but at the same time, Charlotte clubbed Miami down in Florida, so I feel like we might actually be getting a value on the Heat in this one. A road team on revenge on a back-to-back; it's beautiful, actually, since Miami is going to get 2 extra points because of the fatigue factor, but the Heat starters only played about 25 minutes each yesterday in a blowout of Indy. I don't usually like to back a team off a huge win like the one Miami just had since the value is often diminished by the public's sudden improvement of perception, but here we might actually have some Miami love - I lean slightly to the Heat. I think this total opens up extremely low, and for that reason, I like the Over. Bettors are going to see two defensive clubs and look at the Under without stopping to see that Charlotte has played 3 of 4 Overs, and if Indiana weren't so terrible, Miami would have had one of their own - as it is, Miami went Over in 3 of 4 before last night.

Pacers @ Magic - Orlando by 10.5 with a total of 210.5. This line just jumped to 11.5, as the Pacers-Heat game ended before I could write my synopsis. And I'm going to just treat this game like the line opened at 11.5, because I do not believe the line shift was the result of early money, I think it was books realizing they could inflate this line off the result of Indiana's game in Miami, a 30-point blowout loss. It might surprise you to note that these two teams have played twice already this season, and Indiana has covered both, including an outright win at home as an 11-point dog. Still, we can't take much from that line, since both Granger and Murphy were out for the Pacers. This game in Florida, though, is strikingly similar in situation to the last time these teams met there, with some minor changes. Allow me to elaborate - for one, the Pacers were 12.5-point dogs last time they played in Orlando, now just 11.5, as Indiana has been playing better ball than Orlando lately, and the rankings have adjusted. Also, Orlando was playing their first game home off a 4-game road trip then, and they're going to be doing it again, imitating the previous trip even down to the ATS push in the final game! Very, very weird. If history does indeed repeat itself, I have to lean Indy, even though that team showed me nothing against Miami to make me think they'll compete in this one. Also interesting, the last time in this same spot, the total was at 209, and the game ended at 187. Oddsmakers don't seem to think history will repeat itself, and I suppose I have to lean Over.

Mavericks @ Wizards - Dallas by 4.5 with a total of 198. I know this might sound nuts, but this is "technically" a revenge game for the Mavericks. Yep, I forgot about that game, too. NBA Opening Night, Wizards smacked the Mavs upside the head in Dallas, and I distinctly remember Jason Terry saying that they may have "taken the Wizards lightly." Athletes have a lot of pride, and my guess is that despite all the crap taking place in the Wizards' camp, Washington has won both of their home games on the current 6-game homestand, so it's not as though this team is a total pushover, beating the Kings and Blazers. Still, the road Mavs are a different bird. If not for the revenge factor, I'd call this game a letdown spot for Dallas. They certainly had the look-ahead in Toronto on Sunday, played their asses off in Boston on MLK Day, and now another game with an opponent they might normally overlook. I am of the opinion that the win over Boston, combined with the revenge factor angle outweighs the potential look-ahead issue, and Dallas's strength on the road will continue to shine. I lean Dallas. On the total, I really like the Over. Both of these teams are on an Under trend, yet oddsmakers set this line 5 points higher than the total these teams played to in their first meeting. If the public is on the Under here, which I believe they might be given the recent string of low-scoring games for both teams and the previous Under they played, I might very well hop on that Over.

Blazers @ Sixers - This line is OFF. Will Brandon Roy play? That's the real question here. And unfortunately, the handicapping of this game is completely different with or without him. Word on the street is that Roy is going to play, so let's approach the game as if he's going to be a part of it. Good timing, too, considering the Sixers are one of the recent teams that came into Portland and just manhandled the Blazers, outscoring Portland (if my memory serves) by almost 30 points in the second half. You have to believe there is going to be some Portland revenge here. I also like the fact that the Blazers lost in Washington without Roy, giving them some motivation to step up and play a better game. I also like the fact that the Sixers haven't been terribly successful at home this year, where they're 4-15 ATS, almost an automatic fade in their building. And honestly, if it weren't for the OT loss in Minnesota, I'd think this one would be a play even before the line came out. Instead, Philly returns home looking to bounce back, which does provide just a small anti-Portland angle. I lean Blazers, but not strongly. I'm interested to see where this total opens, as both of these teams have been playing to the Under lately (aside from the Sixers OT game with Minnesota), yet the previous meeting between these two clubs went Over the posted mark of 192 by 5 points. If this total opens under 192, I'd grab the Under right then and there - you just don't argue with the oddsmakers when they hint at a pick.

Kings @ Hawks - Atlanta by 10 with a total of 205. I know this is a little nutty, but that looks like too many points to me. It isn't going to be easy for the Kings, and I have very little doubt that they lose this game, but the Hawks are coming back to Earth as oddsmakers are finally starting to have a decent read on this team. They are 7-8 ATS in their last 15 games, but 26-14 ATS this year, so that's a fine example of how underrated they were for the first 2 months, but how perfectly ranked they've been lately. In fact, over those 15 games, the Hawks have not won or lost more than 2 straight games ATS. Unfortunately for me, they've lost 2 straight, which means they're due to get the ship righted, and I lean the other way. That might be reason enough to pass on this side. Still, while we're breaking this game down, it's important to note how the two teams involved have been playing. The Hawks, as we noted, have lost 2 straight ATS (they've won 3 of 4 SU, for what it's worth), and they've played to 5 of 6 Unders. The Kings have lost 4 straight games, but covered their last one with a mighty second half comeback against the Bobcats only to fall short in the end. Something about the Kings makes me think they're due for a couple of ATS wins, but that's not reason enough to place a bet. The previous meeting between these two teams was an 8-point Atlanta win in Sacramento, 113-105, a game that went well over the total of 207. So, one, we have revenge, and that's worth factoring into the equation, since that game occurred well before the Kings started playing better. And two, the total on this game is set at 205 despite that first meeting featuring 218 combined points. I like Sactown, and I like the Under.

Celtics @ Pistons - This line is OFF. Going to be a tough game if Rip Hamilton can't play, that's for sure. Doesn't make life any easier that Boston is 5-1 ATS in the last 6 games in Detroit. The Celtics do not fear Motown, and they are, of course, the vastly superior team with or without Kevin Garnett. It is interesting, though, that these teams have not yet played this year. So we have very little to go on, in that there's no revenge angle, both teams are playing on 1 day of rest, both teams have played to 2 consecutive Unders. It almost feels like we're handicapping some other sport besides the ultra-volatile NBA. It almost seems too cookie-cutter to make sense! The Pistons had bottomed out in Chicago, as you all remember, won 3 straight, then lost a morning game in New York on MLK Day, but you have to like the confidence this team is showing lately. The Celtics have lost 2 straight, both home games (no surprise there, given Boston's make-up so far this year, 11-7 at home, 16-5 road), and now go on the road to a city where they've had a ton of success, as noted above. I'll lay it out right here, I don't like this game one bit, unless you're considering the total, and even then, I almost don't know what to expect. Detroit and Boston both like to play games decided in the 180's, and I'd expect to see this total in the high 180's as a result. Let's just play this one by ear -- I hate to just bail on a game like this, but this one is just such a shot in the dark, especially without a line on it.

Grizzlies @ Hornets - New Orleans by 3.5 with a total of 203.5. This one is surprising to me, as it seems like with the way Memphis has been playing, taking points against a fairly evenly matched team is a no-brainer. But let's make sure we're not getting suckered. Memphis has won 4 straight games, all at home, and covered all 4 victories, so this team is red hot, and my huge mistake on Monday was giving the public too much credit in believing that they would start to strongly favor the Grizzlies on their hot streak. Is today the day, now? Tough to say. The Hornets were our losing play on Monday as they came out hung over against the Spurs and just didn't really show any effort until late in the 4th quarter. This second game at home should feature a much better effort from the Hornets against an up-and-coming team that they've beaten senseless over recent years. This may be the changing of the guard, or this may be a Chris Paul show, since you have to believe the Hornets are disappointed in their effort in the loss to San Antonio, the second loss this year to the Spurs. This is a tough game to read, since it looks like Memphis should be the easy play, as New Orleans wins at home, but they don't cover as a home favorite (10-3 SU, 5-8 ATS). I lean to Memphis, unless this spread jumps up to 4 or 4.5. The total looks a little high to me, though we know Memphis can get hot and score a ton in a hurry, but let's be real, the Hornets are 6-13 O/U at home - this is an Under until proven otherwise, and for me, it's probably neither...

Raptors @ Bucks - Milwaukee by 2.5 with a total of 204. I can write definitively that the best bet on this game is to wait, see how it goes, then play the second half of this home-and-home, as these two teams play in Toronto on Friday. Still, if you're an action junkie (and I'd recommend stopping that habit right now), there is something to be said for this game. The Raptors played last night in Cleveland and lost to the Cavs by 8 (covering the spread). We all know about the Raptors woes on back-to-backs -- they are 2-7 on the back end, and that's including the 1-0 record when the second game is played at home. Here they are, on the road again, playing against a Bucks team that beat them by 22, also in Milwaukee, back at the beginning of December. Yes, there is a slight revenge angle, but I think that would/will be stronger when Toronto plays host to Milwaukee, instead of going back into Wisconsin, tired from a tough game with Cleveland. Everyone knows how well the Raptors have been playing lately, and the cover against Cleveland gives Toronto 11 covers in their last 14 games, and 2 of those losses came to Boston. This might be that game where the public finally catches on. I lean Milwaukee, even though the Bucks are coming home off a 6-game road trip. The better bet, once again, is Raptors in the first half, Bucks in the second, and lay off the game as a whole. Or hell, bet Raptors for the game, then try to set up a middle at halftime if Toronto can keep up the energy for 24 minutes. I hate the total. Milwaukee is going to be sluggish early, and even though Toronto's defense is improved, they tend to get lax on defense on back-to-backs - too many competing factors.

Thunder @ Wolves - This line is OFF. Letdown spot for the Thunder? Maybe, but this is a tough team to fade right now. The Wolves are likely without Kevin Love in this game due to an illness, and he was really the piece of their puzzle that helped them start covering ATS. They still aren't winning, though to their credit they did beat the Sixers in OT in their last game, but the Wolves have something of a knack for covering underdog spreads without winning the game. Maybe not all the time, but some, and enough for us to at least pause before going against them. Still, there isn't much of a situational edge for either team. The Thunder are on the 2nd game of a short 3-game road trip, and they've covered in 3 straight, and the Wolves are in the 2nd game of a 3-game homestand, and they've covered 3 of 4. So, we have two teams that are paralleling one another, in terms of ATS activity, but two teams with different objectives for the season. I expect to see the Thunder as a 5-6 point favorite, a dangerous number for a team coming off a huge road win in Atlanta. I realize this write-up is bouncing between positive and negative notes for each club, and that's precisely why I think this side is a tough one. The Thunder are 14-6 ATS on the road, and so on and so forth. I pass on this side, unless the line that comes out is just too ridiculous not to jump on. I think this one could go Over, too, since Minnesota is going to push the tempo, and we know how the Thunder can score when they want to.

Jazz @ Spurs - San Antonio by 6.5 with a total of 194. Our very first TRIPLE REVENGE spot! The Jazz have won all 3 meetings with the Spurs, and have covered all three spreads. This is just a great game to try to handicap - so much going on, and when I see a spot like this with a ton of information, I get all excited. The Jazz won the first meeting this year, in Utah, 113-99, easily covering a pick'em spread and flying Over the posted mark of 198. The second meeting was Utah's first win in San Antonio in about a decade, a 90-83 defensive slugfest as a 5-point dog, and a total well below the posted 196. The third game was a showdown, a 104-101 Utah victory in the SLC, barely covering a 2-point home favorite spread, but again going Over the total (194.5) in Utah. We can learn an awful lot by just looking at the numbers. San Antonio is favored by a ton, the largest spread all season long despite the Jazz, arguably, playing better basketball than the Spurs of late. Utah is a powerhouse 5-0-2 ATS in their last 7, and the Spurs are just 2-2 in their last 4, and start a 6-game homestand in this one. So, there is certainly the potential for a sluggish start for San Antonio, and the question is whether they'll be able to crank it up fast enough to make sure the Jazz can't open up an early lead. There is certainly a premium being placed on the Spurs here as the triple-revenge club, and the total being the lowest of any of the 4 games leads me to believe this one is going to be another defensive struggle. I believe the triple-revenge outweighs the first-game-home sluggishness, and for that reason, I lean to the Spurs to win this game outright. My concern is whether they can cover that chunky spread. It's most likely set that high for a reason - I lean Spurs on the side, and I think they dictate the tempo, and this one stays Under.

Nets @ Suns - Phoenix by 12.5 with a total of 218.5. The game we've all been waiting for. The lowly Nets try to get a win on the road, and they'll have the money of all the JM-B players behind them in this one. Phoenix has just been terrible lately, and they're playing the first game of a 5 of 6 at home stretch here, so sluggishness is a definite possibility. Still, this also shapes up as a "get fat" game for Phoenix, a team that I'm sure is looking to run up the score and get a little confidence back. The Suns lost all 4 games on their road trip, covering just 1 of 4, and they're actually a fetid 1-5 ATS in their last 6 games. Jersey isn't much better, losing 8 straight games overall, and covering just 2 of those 8 losses. This is one of those spots where you have to look at the road dog just because of the monster spread, but at the same time, this is also one of those spots where you've got a road team that is almost impossible to back at this point against a home team that's been struggling, and is in a bad situational spot -- I know I've said it about other games on this schedule, but I hate the side in this one. There is just no clear edge. The total is more interesting than the side, I feel, as the Suns score around 8 ppg more at home than on the road, but allow 4 points less, maybe the strongest home/road split left in the NBA in terms of point differential. I think most folks are going to see this game and think Under because New Jersey can't score, but I think the Nets put up some points on the Suns, and I think Phoenix is due to shoot about 60% for a half. I lean Over.

Nuggets @ Warriors - Nuggets by 6 on the road with a total of 230. A colossal total of 230 points, but I feel like oddsmakers wouldn't set one this high without good reason. Let's dig. The Warriors are a worthy competitor for the Nuggets, in that both teams score at will, and the Warriors shouldn't have much issue with letting this game get to a completely hectic tempo. Both previous meetings this year were won by the Nuggets, though the most recent one was courtesy of the referee crew, who called a shooting foul on Monta Ellis with 2 seconds left and J.R. Smith literally 38-feet from the hoop. Terrible call, makes you think, at least briefly, that the game was fixed, except the Nuggets still didn't cover the spread. Truthfully, when the Warriors aren't on a back-to-back, which they're not, they can probably hang with the Nuggets. No one on Denver can stop Monta, and Andris Biedrins, if he stays out of foul trouble, could be a bit of an annoyance near the rim. I'm just not sure Golden State has the energy to withstand Denver's intensity for all 48 minutes. I suppose time will tell. I do like the double-revenge angle, but the Warriors are such a tough team to handicap right now with their 6 healthy bodies. Guards are playing the entire game right now, although there are about 4 guys that might play in this one, currently listed as questionable. I have to lean to the home dog, which is often the case when a home team is getting this many points, and when the road team is just not that successful on the road. I'm just not confident in this total - both games have hit 240 so far this year, and I'm wondering if oddsmakers might be right on the money with this one.

Bulls @ Clippers - Clippers by 3 with a total of 197. I actually believe this line is accurate, in terms of splitting money, though I still lean Clippers, and here's why: the Clippers are coming off their first SU win after 4 straight losses. I tend to like backing decent teams coming off a losing streak, just the way I like to fade decent teams off a win streak. The Clippers have covered 2 straight, and they continue to put together solid offensive efforts. Chris Kaman is going to make a monster difference, and I'd love to have him back in there to tackle Chicago's bigs, but even if he's not, this is a nice spot for the Clippers. The Bulls began their 7-game road trip with a silly loss in Golden State against a team that they just should not have lost to. The question mark for me is whether the Bulls bounce back, or whether we saw the peak in Boston, and the home ATS loss to the Wizards, followed by the epic fail in Oakland was actually the start of this team suffering a bit of a letdown for a week or two. I'm inclined to think the latter is true. The Bulls had a fantastic ATS surge from December 15 to January 14, but the oddsmakers caught up, the Bulls got that huge win over the Celtics, and now they're getting too much credit. The Clippers are a better team than Chicago, and the only reason I'm not more confident in this lean is because we might get a late-breaking injury announcement, and you guys all know how I feel about those. I think this total goes Over, too, as the Clippers have been pushing the pace and they've played to 5 straight Overs.

247 Comments:

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/19/2010 9:58 PM

Shortened link - tweet me!!

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posted by guevones on 01/19/2010 10:03 PM

digging the bolding within the write-up, Dan.

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/19/2010 10:05 PM

Haha, I'ma "upgrade my gray matter"

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/19/2010 10:27 PM

ya i like it too!

 

posted by Lloyd Christmas on 01/19/2010 10:50 PM

Just stopping in for my obligatory "hey" before bed, Dan.  Slow card but a lot of chat today.  We started baseball yesterday so my free time has been severely diminished starting now.  Come March and April I become a Sunday only bettor, it f*cking sucks.  Hopefully I get home early enough to find some good overlap on the card tomorrow.  Be well, buddy!

 

posted by guevones on 01/19/2010 10:58 PM

also like your use of the word "fetid," Dan.

also, gonna have JM players on Chicago, NJ (as you noted), and Portland, though NJ and Portland pushed, won, or lost, depending on the lines the JM bettors got. He'll probably instruct them to just go ahead and play them if you had a loss or a push so, keep that in mind.

 

posted by guevones on 01/19/2010 11:01 PM

Dan, I'm going to post my thoughts on halftime middling tomorrow if you don't mind. Just see some folks doing it and I don't know that it's necessarily the best practice so, thought I'd give your followers my thoughts on it for whatever it's worth. too tired to put together that post right now though. see y'all in the a.m.

LC --- how's Hattiesburg treating you? run into Tiger?

 

posted by anjorlino on 01/19/2010 11:11 PM

I'm with you on almost all of the games that has their line already.. except for the clipps, memphis and GS.. I have a strong feeling about the bulls and hornets so maybe I'll just bet a minimal money.. about the denver-gs game, I think I'll just play pass on that one.. But still I have 6 games left that I want to bet on.. I'll try trim these one to 3..

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/19/2010 11:40 PM

I think the Nuggets are one of the scariest games on this card tomorrow - that line is fishy as hell!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/19/2010 11:42 PM

Hey, I was just typing it up, and now that I realized how to cut and paste the html code into the blog, it's much easier for me to make formatting changes like adding the bolds.

Also, I debated a few times whether I could drop a "fetid" in a blog and if people would have to make a dictionary.com run, but I decided you guys are sports nerds like me, so I went for it!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/19/2010 11:43 PM

Lloyd!  Just make sure you at least drop into the blog and say HEY, even if you're not betting - makes me feel better to know you're out there rockin' steady.

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/19/2010 11:45 PM

G -

By all means!!!  I don't do a ton of halftime betting, as you've seen.  I do believe that if done correctly, it can be quite profitable, but I think the biggest misconception is that a team way behind at half time is always going to come back.  Definitely drop some halftime knowledge on us, buddy!!

We'll keep an eye on the side line moves in those other JM play.  I'm sick of this JM character, haha!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 12:25 AM

And with that, Dan Bebe heads to sleep - thanks for another SWEET thread yesterday, guys!  Only 2 games and we still had 170 comments and over 1,100 thread views!  We're dominating this place!!!!

 

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posted by razorback fan on 01/20/2010 5:31 AM

Things heating up in the big sleazy.  Hornets on the front end of the big party this time.  Will watch and see.  GL today Dan B.

 

posted by Tedro on 01/20/2010 5:40 AM

Nice touch with putting your leans in bold.  I had recently started copying and pasting your write ups to a word document and then putting your leans in bold so you've saved me a step.  Thanks Dan and keep up the good work!

 

posted by gcoutu_9 on 01/20/2010 8:11 AM

I'm glad I laid off everything yesterday cause this card looks like it is holding a lot of good spots.  More research and see what everybody else thinks...

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 8:26 AM

here are my leans as of now:

Milw, Minn, SAS, and GSW, in no particular order.

 

posted by The good on 01/20/2010 8:45 AM

Good evening all NBA fans. I like Spurs tonight , but why line went down from -6.5 to -5.5 ?

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 9:59 AM

Alright guys, time to get back at it, and make some selections!

Razor - Yeah, I'm still a little peeved with New Orleans for their pathetic effort on MLK day - not sure which way to go with that game today!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 10:11 AM

My pleasure Tedro!

Just felt it was time for me to take things up a notch!!

Coutu - These huge cards often hold some value, it's just always tough to make sure we can locate it among so many lines!

G - I wonder what caused that SAS line to drop a point overnight; not a fan of that move.

The Good - I have the same question you do, I think that that line drop might take the Spurs off the table.

 

posted by GoodFella on 01/20/2010 11:03 AM

Keep doing yur thing Dan & best of luck tonight!

Roy 'going to play' Wednesday: The Oregonian reports Portland guard Brandon Roy, who missed Monday's game at Washington with a hamstring injury, plans to play Wednesday at Philadelphia. "I'm going to play," Roy said. "Not try. I'm playing Wednesday in Philly."

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 11:22 AM

GF!  Thanks buddy! Your note the other day about League Pass has completely changed the outlook of my week!! Hahaha.

Keep dominating the CBB, buddy - you've been straight rollin'!!!

 

posted by Hotspur on 01/20/2010 11:25 AM

Evening Dan...was out of commission yesterday but back in for the monster card....have to say first few reads and my brain is stewed but my early interest has probbaly been caught by Minny +7 and over 199 in the same game as well as Jazz/spurs under 194.  My brain also says sactown but my guts are saying looks a bitt iffy all those points.  I want to try and get down to just three bets tonight so going to take my time and just watch the blog develop.  G fascinated to hear what you have to say about half time middles.

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 12:18 PM

Hey Hotspur!

Glad to have you back for this JUMBO NBA card!

I just put your Jazz/Spurs under lean out as my Freebie today, so that should make you happy!  My Pro Pick is up as well, over at my Pro Page:

http://bit.ly/7YykMu

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 12:18 PM

sorry --- got busy at work today and probably will have to wait on my write-up on halftime middles until this evening or tomorrow. i didn't create a new wheel or anything, so don't get too excited.

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 12:20 PM

G, REINVENT THE WHEEL, YOU JERK!

Anything less is unacceptable!  One of your leans may or may not be my Top Play...I fear we're starting to think alike! :)

http://bit.ly/7YykMu

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 12:34 PM

dan, your way of thinking rubs off on me, and it shouldn't be the other way around (don't let my squareness by contagious). seriously, i think i am just - through reading your blog and learning your style - starting to like the kind of picks you like. oh yeah, and i read your write-ups and they influence me a great deal so ...

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 12:48 PM

A few key links:

1) Wednesday show, direct link to audio player, listen now!: http://bit.ly/47ECku

2) Wednesday discussion thread, with free plays and thoughts on all things sports betting from Mike Hook and Dan Bebe (and a host of others that continue to grow!): pregame.com/.../721555.aspx" target="_blank

3) Dan Bebe's Free and Paid Plays for Today: http://bit.ly/7YykMu

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 1:14 PM

G -

I think it's solid that we all sort of rub off on one another in here, gives each of us a few new ways to look at a game.

The one thing I always want to instill is that long term approach - not making a ton of bets, really trying to isolate the value in, often, the games that look like ones you'd just never play

 

posted by gcoutu_9 on 01/20/2010 1:21 PM

LOVE the paid play.  I have narrowed my plays down to 3-4 and that one made the final cut (before I saw yours).  Hope we are both right!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 1:24 PM

Oh we're right, I can FEEL it!

I will have a rare TWO FREEBIE day today:

The Spurs-Jazz Under 193 (already posted at my Pro Page), and...

VERY LIKELY a play on the Warriors, just waiting to make sure that line doesn't do anything funky!

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 1:36 PM

So what are your leans on the day?

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 1:43 PM

Hahaha, tough question, Uplay, so many games!

My freebies are Spurs/Jazz Under and the Warriors +5.5.

My leans:

Sides: Indy, Sactown, Memphis, Milwaukee, Phoenix, LAC

Totals: Kings-Hawks Under, Suns-Nets Over

Yikes, I know! I chose my Paid Play from among that gargantuan list, and I'll answer any questions you guys have about any side or total either from that list or from your own card.

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 1:45 PM

Well your leans validate mine because more or less i agree with them all, i guess you are rubbing off on me

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 1:46 PM

Hahaha - nice!  We're all turning into true winners!

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 1:51 PM

Hahaha i like how your spicing up the show dan hahaaha

 

posted by razorback fan on 01/20/2010 1:51 PM

Does any team stink as bad as the Nets right now?  Holy cow, I'm going to pinch my nose and take 13 freakin' large points in the NBA.  This is just plain gettin' silly now, as once again the Nets are in a good spot to show...uhmm... something.  (stats indicate they actually play better on the road) & getting alot of early love.  Im sure Joe w/ pound the suns regardless of spread.  Hey, they tossed the bait out there, and I'm taking it...........someone please stop me..........also like SAS, NOH = get back game.  Big sleazy electrified........

 

posted by gcoutu_9 on 01/20/2010 1:53 PM

Dan,

Would I be a complete moron to take a very small play on the Pacers ML +650?  I think they will play hard today and if they shoot well they can win that game.  I'm really down on Orlando right now and I like the Pacers coming off the loss last night.  Save my small play or worth a look?

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 1:55 PM

Haha, Uplay -

Yeah, we got a little rambunctious, and it's easier when there are just 2 of us, simply because I know who I'm interacting with.  Not easy to do a show of 3 people in 3 different parts of the country.  But I'm glad you enjoyed!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 1:57 PM

Razor - My one concern with the Nets is that that line actually went UP from 12.5 to 13, so it's not as "stank" as you normally enjoy.  Hahaha - that's a game I'm avoiding - the mild odor coming from it isn't strong enough to make me want to taste, but certainly enough to make me turn away :)

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 1:58 PM

Coutu -

How small of a bet?  Hahaha.  I like Indy to play it close, but let's remember, they LED that last game in Orlando until the bitter end, but Orlando WILL wake up when they have to.  It's +650 for a reason...

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 1:59 PM

What do you think about that NO game? Do you think they will show up? Or will Memphis be able to handle CP3?

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 2:00 PM

I actually think that line is right on the money - New Orleans should win it by a nose!

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 2:09 PM

Ya im stayin away from that one, god i hate this time of day i alrdy have all my plays in for the day, and there is still 2 hours til tip

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 2:10 PM

A good time of day to finish up some paperwork, etc. I'm going to hop in the shower, but I'll be back before games get goin'!

Remember guys, top play is for sale for just the standard $15 at http://bit.ly/7YykMu

Keep on rockin'!

 

posted by Ben on 01/20/2010 2:31 PM

Dan, I like the look of Charlotte and Clippers... I also want to do Boston and Portland... so please give me a reason not to so I won't regret leaving them!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 2:36 PM

My one reason to skip Charlotte is that Miami is on revenge.  Otherwise, they seem like a strong play.

Clippers I like, as well. I wonder about the Bulls on bounceback from the Warriors loss, but I have to like LAC at home, where they've been very strong lately.

Boston has historically OWNED the pistons in Motown, at least over the last few years since the Pistons were relevant.  that line moving up makes me think boston indeed plays a good game, bu I think that line is pretty accurate.

Portland gets Brandon Roy back, and my guess is that they'll come out focused.  The Sixers are terrible at home, and returning off an OT road loss; my only concern is that Blazers almost look too easy, but I like Portland or nothing there.

 

posted by Ben on 01/20/2010 2:40 PM

Thanks a bundle Dan! Your free play looks very sound too, might have to have a dabble.

Good luck with your picks tonight!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 2:41 PM

Much obliged, Ben!

On a nice little 7-2 run on plays, so let's keep it going!

Two freebies tonight:

Spurs-Jazz UNDER &

Warriors +5.5

 

posted by gonoles on 01/20/2010 3:09 PM

i c the o/u on the jazz/spurs jumped from 193-195 on my site in less then an hour.. any reason 4 concern as i wuz ready to take the under??

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 3:12 PM

Actually, yes, I would be a tiny bit concerned.  I'm going to let that play continue, but that is pretty large late steam, and I would not at all be opposed if people want to hedge.

 

posted by gonoles on 01/20/2010 3:19 PM

k thanx. im also kinda intrigued by the portland/philly game.. i saw in ur roundup 2 start the day that if the total wuz 192 u really liked the under.. well it started at 193 and despite close to 60% on the under it has gone up to 194.5..  just interested in what ur thinkin bout that... is that a pass... or jump on the total one way or the other??

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 3:21 PM

I would say that moves that Free Play from a 54-55% winner to coin-flip, and you guys know how I feel about coin flips.  Unfortunately, if we tried to hedge now, we could potentially lose both bets on a reverse middle, so I'm going to let it go and hope for the best!

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 3:25 PM

lets kick ass today gentlemen!!

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 3:26 PM

DW about the coinflip guys TAILS NEVER FAILS!!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 3:30 PM

Gonoles - the total didn't come out where I hoped, so as a result I have no real feelings on it.  I was hoping oddsmakers would give us an indicator of what they expected from the game with a lower total, but when they released a total right in that nebulous "gray area", that one came off my board.  That's a PASS for me.

UPlay - love that confidence!  Coin flips are still GOOD 50% of the time, so let's just grab a little luck on that one, and win the other ones easily! :)

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 3:33 PM

Razor ---- no amt of points is too much when it comes to the Nets. Gimme 20 points and I'll still say no thanks.

 

posted by The good on 01/20/2010 3:38 PM

Dan, I want to take Bucks -2.5 tonight , do you bless my pick? :)

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 3:40 PM

The good --- check out Dan's lean's above on sides. here they are:

Sides: Indy, Sactown, Memphis, Milwaukee, Phoenix, LAC

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 3:42 PM

Haha, G, I'm kinda with you on the Nets now - they just keep driving me closer and closer to madness.

TheGood - I offer your pick my humble blessing!

 

posted by The good on 01/20/2010 3:52 PM

Thanks Dan !  With your bleesing i feel more confidence , good luck with all your picks tonight !

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 3:54 PM

THanks TheGood!

Let's get that coin-flip on ESPN, and let's get the Warriors, and let's get my Paid Play!!

ANd let's get everything else you guys are on, of course!!

 

posted by GeronimoDoom on 01/20/2010 3:58 PM

Just got in from work and we got 4 mins til the game starts.

Here are my leans:

Bobcats

Bucks

Spurs

Nuggets

Clippers

All favorites tonight, which is pretty scary. But I generally do like betting small to mid favs in the NBA.  

What you think, Danno?

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 4:03 PM

Geronimo -

Quickly -

Bobcats I like, but I fear the Heat on revenge.

Bucks I like, hope they don't come out sluggish at all, but I like the line value.

Spurs I lost my interest in when that line dropped by a point overnight

Nuggets I do NOT like - looks too easy, Nugs haven't shown me much on the road

Clips I think are still underrated, very strong home team.

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 4:04 PM

LETS GO BOBCATS!

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 4:08 PM

dan, not surprised you didn't include Minn as one of your leans because that number came our relatively high but I see OKC let down coming, especially on the road against a team that is difficult to get up for. They probably still win this but it will be more difficult than it should be.

 

posted by GeronimoDoom on 01/20/2010 4:12 PM

Dan, agree with you. Did a quick crunch of the numbers and am backing of the Nugs.  

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 4:20 PM

Anyone know a good site for CBB play by plays?

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 4:27 PM

UPlay - CBSsportsline is alirght.

Dan --- backing off Minn w/ no K. Love. and that OKC road ATS record is tough to butt heads with.

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 4:31 PM

Ya thats what i use but with cbb some games they dont have a play by play. Any others suggestions?

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 4:48 PM

WOW i mis clicked... took Davidson instead of Western Carolina... i guess its just gonna be one of those days..

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 4:51 PM

Ugh, the dreaded mis-click.  Sorry about that Uplay - win the rest of 'em!

G - Love that injury PASS - you guys know how I feel about forcing plays.

Geronimo - I think you'll be glad you backed off the Nugs.  Of course, they could win in a blowout, but 55 times out of 100 they won't!

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 4:52 PM

Haha ya i think of it as just funny, obviously it was my fault.. so if you cant laugh at yourself :)

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 5:03 PM

Let's get the Paid Play goin'!

 

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posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 5:22 PM

Quiet blog tonight.. wonder where sink is haha.

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 5:23 PM

Hahaha, plenty of time for things to pick up!

 

posted by Ben on 01/20/2010 5:27 PM

Dan i played boston and dallas.... kinda kickin myself about not playin charlotte!

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 5:32 PM

Ben Charlotte still could collapse they have 12 TO in the first half if mia gets hot who knows!

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 5:32 PM

14 TO*

 

posted by Ben on 01/20/2010 5:38 PM

haha charlotta did it against the spurs too!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 5:41 PM

Hahaha, yeah, I like Boston though - they don't seem to mind playing in Detroit - almost played 'em, myself!

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 5:56 PM

Haha does Gerald Wallace fall a lot or what haha.

 

posted by davessler on 01/20/2010 5:56 PM

Not watching the Bucks game, Dan---what's up---are we in good shape here, buddy? I'm watching three I got bigger investment in that are near the finish line. Be back later.

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:19 PM

I hope everyone is winning tonite. I needed a break had to look at my cbb handicapping time for a tweak I lost last night worse thean I had in a while. I had to look at all the info I get and change a few things so how is everyone?

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 6:19 PM

Haha, What's up Dave??? Well, we're down a tad at halftime, but half of my confidence was that Toronto would slow markedly in the second half of this back-to-back.  Let's root Milwaukee back into this thing!

 

posted by anjorlino on 01/20/2010 6:20 PM

wow.. spurs? 12-0? seriously?

 

posted by Ben on 01/20/2010 6:20 PM

boston? wot the hell?

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:21 PM

I bet charlottee this morning lucky call I like SA bet them also good nite in cbb

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 6:22 PM

Long way to go in all these later games, fellas!  Spurs will get it goin' for those of you that have 'em - I honestly wouldn't mind some more ugliness since we've got the Under as our freebie!

Sink, Anjo - how you guys doin??

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:23 PM

I went to my cbb slump buster take all my strong leans and tease them 5 teamer tonite

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:24 PM

I dont know if this will format well but I am gonna paste in my slump buster tease I have utep still going in college is all and spurs

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:24 PM

Teaser-4 bk/6 fb pts / 16B23...   2010-01-20 18:46   $50.00   $275.00   --   Placed

NCAA Basketball/G- (Charlotte 49ers @ Richmond) Charlotte 49ers Point Spread 11 (-110) 2010-01-20 19:00 Win

NCAA Basketball/G- (St. Bonnie @ Massachusetts) Massachusetts Point Spread 1.5 (-110) 2010-01-20 19:00 Win

NCAA Basketball/G- (Xavier @ Temple) Xavier Point Spread 8 (-110) 2010-01-20 19:00 Win

NCAA Basketball/G- (Buffalo @ Kent State) Kent State Point Spread -1 (-110) 2010-01-20 19:00 Win

NCAA Basketball/G- (Wake Forest @ N. Carolina) Wake Forest Point Spread 10 (-110) 2010-01-20 19:05 Placed

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:26 PM

just a small to see how far off my numbers are rather then bet them all individually hopefully this breaks me out of my slump

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 6:27 PM

Hey sink, wats up.

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:28 PM

back to winning uplay whats up with u tonite how goes the wars?

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 6:29 PM

Good. Good. Just got done watching Charlotte cover :)

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:30 PM

uplay did u find another book?

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:31 PM

Nice cover I liked that charlotte so much that when I bet it I felt like I was gonna lose because I was so confident

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:36 PM

you know what I hate about offshore  books all though they are easier then a local 24hrs and all is This week was cashout week for me when I am winning I take x amount of profits every 2 weeks but then my balance is of course lower and I feel squeezed a bit. I think thats what happened yesterday feel like I have to build a bankroll then I let all the drama in here get to me so I had a bad nite if I lived in vegas or used a local I would have the whole bankroll gettin money in and out offshore is such a hassle anybody feel this way?

 

posted by anjorlino on 01/20/2010 6:37 PM

good Dan.. I almost went with Spurs under last night, as you know we have earlier deadline here.. anyway, Indy covered.. 30-pt Loss theory!=)

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:37 PM

boy u guys are quiet tonite what are we rootin for u guys only get quite when we are behind?

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:39 PM

anj u have a 12 hour deadline? I bet thats rough it must improve your situational and statistical handicapping because u have no line moves steam etc to go with

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 6:41 PM

Wow San Antonio is hot! hope that Utah stays cold!

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:42 PM

I wanna bet the clippers and GSW so badly why shouldnt I?

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 6:42 PM

Ya sink i did find a few i like, just waiting for vip to send me my cash so i can distribute it among the three sites i found.(2 of them were sites u suggested) THX!

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:44 PM

cool man let me know if u have any questions I have dealt with those 3 for years. I wish my kids werent still in school or I would move to vegas.

 

posted by anjorlino on 01/20/2010 6:44 PM

yeah sink no line movements but I don't get to see your leans here in the forum because of that deadline.. Played some units also on Spurs.. I hope they hold that lead the whole game..

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 6:44 PM

Guys, I'll be right there, just doing some editing for Pregame's weekly podcasts!

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:46 PM

I know no one likes politics but if that mass election is a sign and the dems lose control of congress offshore gambling could be doomed root dems to repeal the law then at least if they get voted out it will take a few years for the repubs to reinstate it

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:47 PM

so when do u have to have say the 7est games in by? can u use offshore books?

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:50 PM

that reminds me I had a local guy once who was going away for the weekend for the first round of the NCAA tournament this was like 1995 I had to make all my bets for thursday and friday by wednesday nite.....what a pain in the ass but that was the best first round I ever had didnt bet high amounts back then but I won 1400 bucks I was psyched on tuesday when he paid me byt saturday and sunday with no action just about killed me

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 6:52 PM

Sink, I think Warriors is a good bet, buddy!

Anjorlino - Yep! Bet the Heat in their next game, now!

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 6:53 PM

Haha, ya i love these online books so easy. Just wish that Vip would let me do in game betting.

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:54 PM

DAN

Funnny podcast today I like it when it is just you guys sometimes I guess my favorites days are mon thursday sat sun or when u guys are alone! you were gettin a little saucy I think of u as like this very straight kinda non cussing very smart well spoken guy.Like my polar opposite when u drop stuff like that I love it . I feel like maybe we are corrupting u just a bit and that makes me happy lol was hook taking a shot at me today I couldnt tell LOL

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 6:54 PM

Ya i like the clippers to but im afraid that CHI bounces back after the GSW loss

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:55 PM

bdog and sportsbook have good in game betting where beted has first and second half lines on all games but no in game and sportsbook has limited half lines

 

posted by anjorlino on 01/20/2010 6:56 PM

our deadline here is 11 est for all of the games.. so sometimes the lines are still off for some games.. I don't know much about offshore books but we only have one system here.. My bookie will send me a text message every 10:30 am est and then the deadline is 10:50 am est for me to reply to that message.. and I can only get my bankroll every wednesday.. and the deadline here for totals is 6 am est.. much more earlier..

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:57 PM

well I am gonna bet GSW now then if utep covers I will put 1 unit on the clippers I still have no faith in chicago which may hurt me

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 6:59 PM

I like baylor +9 second half

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 7:02 PM

Hahaha, Sink, we had a damn good time on the podcast today - I think this was one of the most amusing ones to make and listen to thus far!

Mike was just bustin' chops - he thinks you're AWESOME, buddy!

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:03 PM

nice UTEP may finally hand memphis a conference loss

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:04 PM

oh I loved it nobody likes ball bustin like I do lol so did your pro game start?

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 7:05 PM

Man sink i TRIED to place a bet on WC +3.5 against davidson today, but a mis-click gave me a unlucky loss:(.. Haha im such an idiot

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 7:07 PM

Pro Play is on the Bucks tonight!  Chris Bosh is having a career night for Toronto, but Milwaukee is still up by a hair - just need Milwaukee to close this thing with a few solid minutes and we'll grab it.

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:09 PM

yeah uplay I did that like 2 weeks ago nightmare lol u just gotta laugh I loved western carolina tonite at least u know u were on the right side

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 7:09 PM

Go BUCKS clinging to that 4 pt lead

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:10 PM

I will routem in for ya (routem is my homage to bookiebill

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:14 PM

Dan,

             I got a question that the gambling community would like to know from VR there is a big contingent of guys that swear bookiebill is a madeup creation of VR that he isnt real. I dont believe that but maybe VR would like to address it on the podcast one day so these morons will shut the hell up about it. I will take the audio around the net and pound these losers with it just a thought something u may want to ask him preshow  I used to argue with these morons but I some new ammo

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 7:16 PM

Wow, for the 2nd straight Paid Play, the best player on the team we're backing fouls out.  Chris Paul on Monday, now Bogut in this one.  We need some strong play here in the final 2 minutes, guys!

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:17 PM

haha memphis lost I will be back after bucks game GO BUCKS

 

posted by anjorlino on 01/20/2010 7:18 PM

i"m with you with the bucks Dan.. but bogut fouled out

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:20 PM

JUST TURNED ON TSN GO BUCKS!!!!!

 

posted by GeronimoDoom on 01/20/2010 7:20 PM

You didn't tell me the Bucks were your play of the night when I said I liked them. (Kidding.)  It's going to be close.  Every time I think we are pulling away the Raps hit a three.  

Huge play right there! Let's close this deal

 

posted by gcoutu_9 on 01/20/2010 7:26 PM

Bucks make free throws and we're good.

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 7:27 PM

(biting fingernails)

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 7:29 PM

Whats the line on that game?

 

posted by gcoutu_9 on 01/20/2010 7:30 PM

Winna!  Nice pick Dan

 

posted by Mike Hook on 01/20/2010 7:30 PM

nice hit Bebe! Sink, i wasn't taking a shot at you all. Nothing but respect to you bro! If anything, it was a "shout out"

 

posted by anjorlino on 01/20/2010 7:31 PM

bang! bucks! 8-2 for Dan..

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:31 PM

NICE WIN!!!! I bet bosch is gonna kick somebodys ass in the locker room how doesnt he touch the ball in the late situations ooh bucks go to toronto on friday bet the raptors now anj

 

posted by GeronimoDoom on 01/20/2010 7:34 PM

It was around -2.5 all day.  Free money.   Way to go, Dan.

Btw - do you really think Bogut is the best player on the Bucks? I might beg to differ on that one.  Bogut is a nice big man but Jennings makes or breaks that team.  

I wish league pass would let you choose which announcers you wanted to hear. Those Raps announcers were killing me all night.  Is anybody else's Broadband acting weird tonight? They are doing a free pass this week so I think that might have something to do with it.

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:35 PM

Mikey Mikey I know I was just F-in around with that I take more shots at myself then anyone brother  The hook giving me  a shout out is sweet thanks

 

posted by anjorlino on 01/20/2010 7:35 PM

yeah sink I will if you will bet Raptors also.. LOL.. gotta love the revenge factor..

 

posted by The good on 01/20/2010 7:36 PM

Bravo Dan ! Bucks nice  pick :) I hope you hit with your free pick Golden State ! Good Luck.

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:36 PM

as of right now I am gonna LOL what is the line gonna be -7?

 

posted by GeronimoDoom on 01/20/2010 7:37 PM

One last comment for now- the TISB guys are killing it lately.  Proud to say that I knew Mike and Dan before they were famous (as in Pregame Pros).  Keep up the good work guys.  

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:38 PM

Dan Mike I think you guys should ship anj the podcast when u are done with it like last night when it is early so he can get some leans We as a group gotta find a way to get this guy good info

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 7:38 PM

Coutu, HOOKIE, Anjo, Sink, Geronimo, and everyone up above (I only scrolled up 10 posts...) - THANKS!

It was a little tense, but the Raptors faded in the second half of the back-to-back, just as we expected, and right on cue the hot hot team loses ATS.

You guys are very sharp to immediately think Toronto for Friday.

Let's wait and see what that line is.  I imagine, based on these power rankings, Toronto will be favored by 5-6 points.

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 7:41 PM

Oh, more guys got in there with a "congrats" while I was typing!  Hahaha.

Thanks TheGood!

And Geronimo, you are SO right!  Mikey is (correct me Hook if I get this wrong) 11-2 his last 13?!  I'm 8-2 last 10 - it's a friggin' beatdown, baby!!

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:41 PM

sweet The HOOK with another CBB winner sorry I didnt pick it up today Mike although I did bet it I was taking a break and reevalluating how I approach these games and it worked for tonite at least

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 7:43 PM

Congratz dan and all who played his pick of the day!

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:44 PM

I try to point everyone I can to BeBe and HOOK. whenever I see a question on a forum about basketball handicappers I am always pointing them here never know if they listen of course guys only say somethin when they lose

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 7:45 PM

Thanks Uplay!  5-1 last 6 paid plays!  Gotta love 4 cool units!

You guys know I'm a low volume guy, so this is a very, very strong week, and let's see if we can't find a 2-unit play to really put a cap on things!

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:45 PM

sorry I am reposting this in case u missed it Dan

Dan,

            I got a question that the gambling community would like to know from VR there is a big contingent of guys that swear bookiebill is a madeup creation of VR that he isnt real. I dont believe that but maybe VR would like to address it on the podcast one day so these morons will shut the hell up about it. I will take the audio around the net and pound these losers with it just a thought something u may want to ask him preshow  I used to argue with these morons but I some new ammo

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 7:48 PM

Sink - DEFINITELY APPRECIATE that you point folks to both of us!  Mike and I really strive to make each other better, and with SacLunch I really feel like we're taking the Pregame Mission of new handicappers to a whole new level!!

As far as the VR/Bookie Bill stuff, I think they've covered it in the forum a few times, and I'd love to let VR just tell it on the podcast, but you know as well as I do that those same people are just going to say he's lying, so it's not even worth bringing it up.  Does that make sense?

 

posted by anjorlino on 01/20/2010 7:48 PM

Sink thanks for that but it might be hassle for them.. And besides maybe I'm the only one here who bets early.. lol.. But I love hearing your podcasts.. heard it last night and I went for the public disaster and triple revenge..

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:50 PM

oh that makes total sense those people just get on my nerves!!

 

posted by Gub on 01/20/2010 7:51 PM

BEBE GUN!  NICE DEAD EYE SHOT ON THE BUCKS TONIGHT!  HAD IT ALL THE WAY AS YOU CALLED RAPTORS 2ND HALF PERFORMANCE PERFECTLY!   WAY TO GO!

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:52 PM

ANJ not a hassle for them dan could send u an early version. LOL Sorry Dan volunteering u I just feel like we as a community need to get ANJ some early info because of his odd situation. if I thought my cbb leans were worth it I would send them to u early

 

posted by Mike Hook on 01/20/2010 7:53 PM

3 things---Dan is killing it right now, and DESERVES more credit than he's getting. Guy is a stud! Geronimo, thanks for the words. I've thought highly of you from the moment i first saw your posts. Nothing but respect to you buddy! Sink, never apologize to me about not picking up my play. I feel the same as Dan does and that all we TRULY want is for everyone to win. That's why on podcasts i bust balls because i want ALL pros to post stuff to help EVERYONE win. Lastly, Dan is killing NBA!

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:53 PM

Mikey u still around?

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 7:54 PM

spurs need to wake up on defense so we can get this Under!!

GUB - thanks so much for those props!  I know I speak for both Mike and I when I say that we take a TON of pride in our writeups, since that is the true look into how we cap the game, and with every writeup you guys should not only be buying a WINNER, but also the information so that you can find winners yourself down the line!

I like that, Bebe Gun!  Hahahaha

 

posted by anjorlino on 01/20/2010 7:54 PM

thanks a lot sink.. But we don't have cbb betting here..  Only NBA.. thanks anyway.. I appreciate it..

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:56 PM

AGREED MIKEY. Dan u need a weekly package etc Mikey when does that final 4 package start? is it just for the tournament.Because I cant wait to read yor stuff for the CONFERENCE tournaments

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:57 PM

ANJ I got a brilliant idea I can give u my early NBA leans and u can fade them guarentedd money

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 7:57 PM

I don't like the way SA is playing...

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 7:58 PM

are they playing bad? I am just watching them on the tracker?

 

posted by anjorlino on 01/20/2010 8:00 PM

sink.. haha.. you fade my leans and you'll win more games..

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 8:00 PM

cmon baylor hang on!!!!!

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 8:02 PM

I am definetly getting better but NBA and MLB definetly my worst handicapping

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 8:02 PM

Let me add that this Blog is the reason I am getting better DAN HOOK and all you guys dropping knowledge

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 8:04 PM

Hahaha, SInk, that's a good question, man!  I'd love to have a package up there, but that's handled entirely by the Pregame tech staff.  I'd like to think I'm next on the list of packages for them to get set up, so I can start having more discounts for you guys to enjoy!!

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 8:05 PM

that ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK chant is creepy especially when u are losing

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 8:07 PM

that would be nice Dan I know I sound like a pregame bitch but before this site I wouldnt buy picks Because I always pictured the guy in some boiler room counting my Money and Flipping a coin to make his pick and Laughing but here we can see how much work u guys do that is by far the difference winning helps of course

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 8:08 PM

Oh, and responding to the remarks about Anjorlino - I promise to do my best to trick to pick some games the night before, but I'll tell you right now, buddy, that once I get back to the east coast, I'll be awake by about 8am eastern time, which should give me a solid 2-3 hours before the podcast to really get a look at the lines.

Right now I have to wake up and immediately start prepping for the show, here on the west coast, and I don't have much time to review overnight line moves so I can give you better info.

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 8:09 PM

That's how we want to keep it, Sink!  We want you guys to feel like you're buying knowledge, not just the name of a city!

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 8:10 PM

WTF happened to the spurs???

 

posted by Mike Hook on 01/20/2010 8:10 PM

i will only answer this here because i know for a fact Dan doesn't mind. Sink-that packages includes all my college basketball plays THRU March Madness. Let me know if you have any other questions about it bro. And agreed, Dan needs his package and i'm sure is next. His package will be full of girth, so i've been told.....

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 8:11 PM

Season series sweep for the Jazz on the horizon.  Wow.  Glad I ended up laying off that one...maybe we can get a 2-3 minute stretch of only 1 made bucket and get this Under, because right now it's right on the number

 

posted by anjorlino on 01/20/2010 8:12 PM

thanks Dan..

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 8:12 PM

Come on SA come back and shut down UTAH, and whats with GS and LAC? They look almost lazy.

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 8:12 PM

Hahaha, one might describe it as a girthy package.

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 8:16 PM

Damn spurs good night guys Maybe the spurs are just the superbowl for the Jazz I should have listened to that line move cya tomorrow guys

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 8:16 PM

Come on Podcast play, come through for me!!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 8:17 PM

G'night Sink! Look forward to getting you back in here for a few more winners tomorrow!!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 8:18 PM

Uplay -

Spurs about to make their final run!  This Under is going to come down to the wire!!

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 8:19 PM

Yup, come on TAILS!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 8:21 PM

TAILS NEVER FAILS!  This was a nice first 6 minutes of this quarter, but if this thing comes down to free throws, we're in trouble.  MISS, MISS, MISS!

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 8:25 PM

dang both the SPURS and the UNDER are both gonna fall, damn

 

posted by gcoutu_9 on 01/20/2010 8:27 PM

Gonna be tough to hold this under, but maybe the Jazz will realize they should run a little clock coming down the stretch.  Need the Spurs to run cold for 2 mins!

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 8:31 PM

I prefer Girth over Length I only ask in here because I know dan doesnt mind I look at u guys as NBA Dan and CBB Mike even though I know u guys are not 1 sport wonders. Dan knows I dont like posting anywhere else so sorry if it was out of line Dan

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 8:40 PM

Out of line?  hahaha, I don't even know what you're referring to, it was so far from being out of line!

Well, the first freebie falls, as the late steam on that Over was the RIGHT steam.

Now, let's bring home this Warriors freebie for a 2-1 night!

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 8:47 PM

Dan, great hit on Milw. I never lost confidence in that one. As for the Spurs game, I watched on the ticker only and I swear the clock never moved and more points just kept appearing on the screen. i knew that one was in trouble when i saw the 2nd half line come out at 99.5 when the game line was around 195. usually, the 2nd half lines are lower than first half and less than half of the total. oh well. still got a shot for a 2-1 night with GSW. can't complain with a tie ballgame at half.

mad at myself for calling pretty precisely the minn/OKC game but not playing it. eff eff eff.

Let's hit that Warriors game, man.

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 8:53 PM

You had a great read on that Minny/OKC game, Guevones!  I really couldn't figure it out, as evidenced by the relative confusion of my blog on that game above.

I'm surprised how tough Minny played even without KLove, but I guess the Thunder took them a little lightly!

Glad we could grab Milwaukee, and Warriors really seemed to weather a nice storm early and are playing excellent basketball.  Denver is relying solely on Melo, also a nice sign for our Warriors play!

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 9:01 PM

i guess i should be glad that my read was right on that game as it will give me more confidence on similar reads on the future.

i put a little extra on your PP so I feel alright.

LAL at Cleve tomorrow. That one shoudl be fun. Despite the Christmas Day massacre, I got to lean Cleveland there. Should be a good one regardless. Maybe a play on the total would be better - we'll see where that comes out.

Also, I see LAC is flying into the Mile High city. might be a good time for a Denver play and/or 2nd half play with the altitude catching up with LAC on B2B in the 2nd half.

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 9:07 PM

oh, and i'd also like to note that the Nets didn't cover my imaginary line of 20.

 

posted by GeronimoDoom on 01/20/2010 9:11 PM

For whatever reason, i can't watch the Clips/Bulls game on my league pass broadband.  Is this happening to anyone else? Like I said earlier, I think it has something to do with the free trial they are during.  But I'm getting the Nugs/GS game perfectly fine.

Nothing like tracking the Clips to determine whether it'll be a 3-1 night or a 2-2 night.  

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 9:11 PM

You should DEFINITELY be confident when you have a read like that, especially when I don't really have one!!

As far as LAL-CLE, I like the Lakers JUST A LITTLE BIT, that one is barely a lean, but Lakers are 2-0 avenging a home loss to a team.  I think the total might be the better play, but even that's a little tough.

Denver is also flying back into the altitude off their game in Golden State, so that one is going to be TWO sluggish teams, hahaha.

 

posted by Lloyd Christmas on 01/20/2010 9:13 PM

Great job tonight, Dan.  Another long day w/no sports betting for me, but I'm glad you're still killing it!  What do you think about thay Cavs/Lakers under for tomorrow.  Both teams have played it low in the past and will probably be looking to turn the screws on D being a TNT game and all.  

G-I have not run into Tiger yet.  Hopefully he doesn't escape and pull a Ty Pennington.  I guess when extreme home makeover was here he got caught bangin' some chick in the bathroom at Mugshots.

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 9:13 PM

Ya Germino, i cant get it on league pass either, i think its blocked out in the LA area, if you live near LA check the clippers network i think its like FSN West or something

 

posted by GeronimoDoom on 01/20/2010 9:15 PM

Guevones, I also like the Nugs tomorrow.  But 10 is a lot of points.  To me, it seems like Vegas knew a lot of people would want to take Denver.

Must say that I have a strong initial lean to the over.  

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 9:15 PM

but shouldn't Denver adjust to the altitude a little better?

 

posted by Lloyd Christmas on 01/20/2010 9:16 PM

BTW for anyone who doesn't have league pass trying going to atdhe.net.  Pretty much every NBA game and lots of CBB, CFB, and NFL.  Picture quality is pretty bad but it's better than nothing.

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 9:18 PM

LC --- it's got to be better than the 1982 technology employed by CBSSportsline.

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 9:19 PM

oh cool thanks Lloyd!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 9:23 PM

Hey lloyd!

Just glad we could get your nightly "hello"!  Haha.  Yeah, it's been a nice little run for me, and I'd love to see the Warriors balance the scales for my freebies and make it another strong night.  They're playing well now, but long way to go, and with their short roster they could get tired all of a sudden, so...

Anyway, nice to see all you guys helping one another with streaming sites.  I haven't checked for the Bulls/Clips game, but you guys knew I leaned Clips on that one.  21 rebounds for Camby so far, damn!

You're right G, the nugs will adjust better than the Clips, but that game might be asking for us to bet an Under on the notion that both teams miss theirjumpers in the 2n half?

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 9:28 PM

Monta fouled him again to end the quarter...

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 9:30 PM

WTF Monta?!?

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 9:32 PM

Sometimes makes you wonder about these games...

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 9:39 PM

ha, yeah, Dan. speaking of, I need to give y'all my synopsis of Tim Donaghuey's book and what I learned that could possibly help with capping. I'll get y'all that synopsis after I give y'all my my briefing on halftime middling. to cut any suspense, i generally do not recommend halftime middling. i sweat i'll put that together soon here.

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 9:41 PM

hahaha, whenever G - we're here every damn day!

Man, this 4th quarter is tough to watch in the Warriors games - I agree there are fouls, but these officials are having issues blowing the whistle on time.  Very, very late calls, and the Warriors announcers are doing a good job of making me ill.

 

posted by GeronimoDoom on 01/20/2010 9:48 PM

Thanks to the no coverage on League Pass Broadband, I'm debating tracking finish of the Bulls/Clips game (present action) or going to bed and waking up to see if they covered (free future action).  

Which option makes it less likely the Clips fall apart down the stretch, as they've tended to do under Dunleavy?

 

posted by GeronimoDoom on 01/20/2010 9:49 PM

And just as i post that, the lead is cut from 11 to 6.  Goodnight, gentlemen.

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 9:50 PM

Haha im right there with you Dan

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 9:52 PM

Geronimo - I don't know about you, but I can't sleep when my game is winding down...

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 9:53 PM

haha goodnihgt Geronimo

 

posted by GeronimoDoom on 01/20/2010 9:56 PM

Yeah I'm still awake tracking this shitstorm.  No doubt they will blow this lead and I'll lose an hour of sleep to boot.  

 

posted by GeronimoDoom on 01/20/2010 9:57 PM

Alright, I'll be honest.  That was a deliberate reverse jinx attempt.  Let's go Clips!!

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 10:02 PM

Monta is just making some terrible lazy ass passes.

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 10:04 PM

GET A REBOUND!!!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 10:06 PM

Seriously, Warriors, come on.  Please give GS the ball here - they deserve ONE break!

Camby missing 2 free throws over in that Clipper game I think Geronimo might be soiling himself right now.

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 10:08 PM

Uh oh...

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 10:08 PM

Wow we do not want OT

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 10:12 PM

The clipps looked so tired tonight i think DEN looks good tmr

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 10:12 PM

another OT, boys. did y'all see that Chris Anderson car commerical? hilarious.

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 10:13 PM

Wow - these are some very strangely officiated games...

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 10:13 PM

Nice Clippers winner Geronimo!  Everyone was taking Chicago out in the forum, but we liked the CLIPS here in the blog, and you played it - kudos!

 

posted by GeronimoDoom on 01/20/2010 10:14 PM

I'll have two chicken dinners please.

Goodnight everybody.  For real this time

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 10:15 PM

Maggette is a freaking man. eff you, Chauncey.

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 10:15 PM

Ya i saw the Chris Anderson Commercial haha, BIRDMAN!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 10:16 PM

Hahaha, the Birdman in a local commercial is freakin' classic.

This one is going to 3OT, I'm calling it now!

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 10:17 PM

BUT I NEED IT TO END, so I can write tomorrow's blog!

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 10:21 PM

yes, we need it to ned, but with a one of the teams winning by 5 or less.

 

posted by Hotspur on 01/20/2010 10:26 PM

you guys still going...wow.good morning and I am rooting with you for GSW to give me a 3-1 night.  sounds so much better than 2-2

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 10:32 PM

WOW - BARELY got that one, but we'll take it!  2-1 night, winner on the paid play, split on the freebies - hope you guys brought home some sweet, sweet victories, as well!!!

 

posted by guevones on 01/20/2010 10:33 PM

whew. I'll take it. way to go, Dan. 2 and 1 night ain't too shabby at all. good night all.

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 10:33 PM

NJ gentlmen congratz on the freebie split Dan, Hows the new write up coming?

 

posted by Hotspur on 01/20/2010 10:33 PM

phew wtf...thought we were going to get bummmed by that fouling tosh at the end!!!!

 

posted by UPlay2WinDaGame on 01/20/2010 10:35 PM

Spur where you from?

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 10:38 PM

Goodnight to those of you hitting the hay - I'll have tomorrow's blog out momentarily - just had to wait to see if the Nuggets were going to be coming off a win or a loss.

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 10:40 PM

woke up to watch the end of my clippers and gsw bets nice wins good job guys this blog kicks the forum butt I read what u guys were saying but I bet the clippers for tomorrow so denver prolly a lock

 

posted by sinkcom on 01/20/2010 10:41 PM

good night again

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 10:44 PM

Hahaha, Sink, we can't KEEP you away, buddy!

I actually really don't like that Den-LAC game tomorrow - too many competing factors on almost all accounts.

I've got a few leans on the first game, and that blog is coming in literally about 30 seconds.

 

posted by Dan Bebe on 01/20/2010 10:48 PM

 

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